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Just two questions...

1. What is the rationale that 'data' is really an array of arbitrary 
top-level claims? I find looking at the spec and not finding a 'data' 
section a little confusing.

2. What is the rationale for sending the JSON object as a urlencoded 
JSON string rather than a base64url encoded JSON string? The later would 
likely be smaller and easier to read:)

Thanks,
George

On 9/21/19 1:51 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just published a draft about ???OAuth 2.0 Rich Authorization Requests??? 
> (formerly known as ???structured scopes???).
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar-02
>
> It specifies a new parameter?????authorization_details"??that is used to 
> carry fine grained authorization data in the OAuth authorization 
> request. This mechanisms was designed based on experiences gathered in 
> the field of open banking, e.g. PSD2, and is intended to make the 
> implementation of rich and transaction oriented authorization requests 
> much easier than with current OAuth 2.0.
>
> I???m happy that Justin Richer and Brian Campbell joined me as authors 
> of this draft. We would would like to thank Daniel Fett, Sebastian 
> Ebling, Dave Tonge, Mike Jones, Nat Sakimura, and Rob Otto for their 
> valuable feedback during the preparation of this draft.
>
> We look forward to getting your feedback.
>
> kind regards,
> Torsten.
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>> *Subject: **New Version Notification for 
>> draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar-02.txt*
>> *Date: *21. September 2019 at 16:10:48 CEST
>> *To: *"Justin Richer" <ietf@justin.richer.org 
>> <mailto:ietf@justin.richer.org>>, "Torsten Lodderstedt" 
>> <torsten@lodderstedt.net <mailto:torsten@lodderstedt.net>>, "Brian 
>> Campbell" <bcampbell@pingidentity.com 
>> <mailto:bcampbell@pingidentity.com>>
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar-02.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Torsten Lodderstedt and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar
>> Revision:02
>> Title:OAuth 2.0 Rich Authorization Requests
>> Document date:2019-09-20
>> Group:Individual Submission
>> Pages:16
>> URL: 
>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar-02.txt
>> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar/
>> Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar-02
>> Htmlized: 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar
>> Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar-02
>>
>> Abstract:
>> ????This document specifies a new parameter "authorization_details" that
>> ????is used to carry fine grained authorization data in the OAuth
>> ????authorization request.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of 
>> submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org 
>> <http://tools.ietf.org>.
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    <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Just two questions...<br>
      <br>
      1. What is the rationale that 'data' is really an array of
      arbitrary top-level claims? I find looking at the spec and not
      finding a 'data' section a little confusing.<br>
      <br>
      2. What is the rationale for sending the JSON object as a
      urlencoded JSON string rather than a base64url encoded JSON
      string? The later would likely be smaller and easier to read:)<br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      George<br>
    </font><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/21/19 1:51 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:A82AA337-86BF-485D-901B-3A3C73C6177B@lodderstedt.net">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      Hi all,??
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">I just published a draft about ???OAuth 2.0 Rich
        Authorization Requests??? (formerly known as ???structured
        scopes???).??</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class=""><a
          href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar-02"
          class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar-02</a></div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">It specifies a new
        parameter?????authorization_details"??that is used to carry fine
        grained authorization data in the OAuth authorization request.
        This mechanisms was designed based on experiences gathered in
        the field of open banking, e.g. PSD2, and is intended to make
        the implementation of rich and transaction oriented
        authorization requests much easier than with current OAuth 2.0.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">I???m happy that Justin Richer and Brian Campbell
        joined me as authors of this draft. We would would like to thank
        Daniel Fett, Sebastian Ebling, Dave Tonge, Mike Jones, Nat
        Sakimura, and Rob Otto for their valuable feedback during the
        preparation of this draft.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">We look forward to getting your feedback.??</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">kind regards,</div>
      <div class="">Torsten.??<br class="">
        <div><br class="">
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                "Torsten Lodderstedt" &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:torsten@lodderstedt.net" class=""
                  moz-do-not-send="true">torsten@lodderstedt.net</a>&gt;,
                "Brian Campbell" &lt;<a
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                A new version of I-D, draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar-02.txt<br
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                Pages:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>16<br
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                <br class="">
                Abstract:<br class="">
                ????This document specifies a new parameter
                "authorization_details" that<br class="">
                ????is used to carry fine grained authorization data in
                the OAuth<br class="">
                ????authorization request.<br class="">
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