Re: [OAUTH-WG] November Interim meeting on WebID/IsLoggedIn followup
Sam Goto <goto@google.com> Mon, 25 January 2021 23:09 UTC
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From: Sam Goto <goto@google.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 15:09:33 -0800
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] November Interim meeting on WebID/IsLoggedIn followup
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:30 AM Vittorio Bertocci <vittorio.bertocci= 40auth0.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Dear all, > > This is a followup on the actions we agreed upon during the November > interim meeting in November (notes in > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-oauth-12/materials/minutes-interim-2020-oauth-12-202011021200-00). > Apologies for the delay. > > The TL;DR is that we decided it might be useful to put together a document > that describes the identity scenarios relying on current browser features > and that we’d like to preserve. > > Such document should help grounding discussions with browser vendors by > making it easy to pinpoint how specific changes might impair functionality > in important scenarios, and what functionality we are trying to preserve > (in case the new browser feature can offer alternate path to the same > outcomes). > > > > Tackling on all the possible scenarios is too big a task for George and > myself alone, hence we devised a proposed mechanism to generate and > maintain that list collaboratively. > > You can find a framing proposal in > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-bertocci-identity-in-browser-00, > and the github repo workspace https://github.com/IDBrowserUseCases/docs. > Thanks to Daniel and Torsten for their help on figuring out how to use > mmark to write internet drafts. > > > > We do have a list of candidate scenarios, but before going too deep in it > we wanted to give the group the chance to take a look at the model and get > your feedback before we charge down that path. This is a pretty unusual > collaboration model and getting it to work might be tricky. > > Please let us know what you think! > Thanks Vittorio for kicking this off and I just wanted to stop by and say that this seems like a wonderful starting point. I read your introduction (which I think has done a great job in capturing the intent), your template, and your initial test use case and I think this is a great starting point. More specifically: - I really like how you are positioning this effort. - I really like the section on scoping <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-bertocci-identity-in-browser-00#section-1.1>, primarily on what not to cover: any scenario not currently in mainstream. I know this is an over categorization, and I don't believe this was your intent, but just for clarification, we would welcome scenarios under "consumers" , "EDU" in addition to "enterprises" (I get the irony of the section above "classifying most other cases as enterprise use cases hence solvable by exceptions and local business policies" -- point taken). - The template <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-bertocci-identity-in-browser-00#section-4> LGTM. There is a chance it will evolve as we write more and we read more, but this is a good starting point. Here are a few ways that I think this could evolve: - perhaps a section with "Possible technologies/announcements/APIs/features that may pose a risk to this scenario" would be constructive to indicate "X (use case) breaks with Y (browser API)". - I have a sense that we would want to extend/break down "Privacy Considerations". One way to make this more concrete, is possibly to cross-reference one of the privacy threat models (e.g. ours is here: Privacy Threat Model <https://github.com/WICG/WebID/blob/master/privacy_threat_model.md>) so that we can collect something like "X (use case) conflicts with Y (privacy threat)". Cross-referencing the threat model will also be useful in giving you a sense of the threats we are set to address too. I'll be watching the repository and looking forward to hearing from you, Thanks again, Sam > > Cheers > > G&V > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >
- [OAUTH-WG] November Interim meeting on WebID/IsLo… Vittorio Bertocci
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] November Interim meeting on WebID/… Sam Goto