Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft-lodderstedt-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-00.txt

[Brian Campbell <[e-mail]>]

And let us not forget about JWS unencoded payload
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7797

On Mar 19, 2018 11:41 AM, "Samuel Erdtman" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Adding an additional proposal to the table. Mike Jones, Anders Rundgren
> and I have created a version of JWS there the signed JSON data does not
> have to be Base64url encoded (the JSON is signed using ES6 serialization
> rules). One of the benefits to this approach would be that the
> introspection data is transferred in cleartext while still fully protected.
> Since it is transferred in the response body and not in a URL there is no
> need for the Base64url encoding.
>
> The draft can be fond here
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-erdtman-jose-cleartext-jws-00
>
> And the example from your draft would look like this (the signature is not
> valid, I just copied it from another place)
> {
>   "sub": "Z5O3upPC88QrAjx00dis",
>   "aud": "https://protected.example.net/resource",
>   "extension_field": "twenty-seven",
>   "scope": "read write dolphin",
>   "iss": "https://server.example.com/",
>   "active": true,
>   "exp": 1419356238,
>   "iat": 1419350238,
>   "client_id": "l238j323ds-23ij4",
>   "username": "jdoe"
>   "__cleartext_signature": {
>     "alg": "ES256",
>     "kid": "example.com:p256",
>     "signature": "pXP0GFHms0SntctNk1G1pHZfccVYdZkmAJktY_hpMsI
>                   AckzX7wZJIJNlsBzmJ1_7LmKATiW-YHHZjsYdT96JZw"
>   }
> }
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Phil Hunt <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> +1.  This is what I expected.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services Architect
>> @independentid
>> www.independentid.com
>> [e-mail]
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt <
>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> We explicitly want the token (JSON object) to be signed not the HTTP
>> response. I think using JWS is the most generic way to achieve that goal.
>>
>> Am 19.03..2018 um 09:57 schrieb Phil Hunt <[e-mail]>:
>>
>> This draft has similar issues to https://tools.ietf.org/html
>> /draft-richer-oauth-signed-http-request-01
>>
>> Rather than *try* sign HTTP, a signed JWT object is more reliably
>> returned.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:25 AM, LARMIGNAT Louis <
>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The draft *Signing HTTP Messages** (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cavage-http-signatures-09
>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cavage-http-signatures-09>)* could
>> not meet this requirement in a more generic way ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Louis
>>
>> *De :* OAuth <[e-mail]> *De la part de* Brock Allen
>> *Envoyé :* dimanche 18 mars 2018 20:40
>> *À :* Torsten Lodderstedt <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
>> *Objet :* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for
>> draft-lodderstedt-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-00.txt
>>
>> Why is TLS to the intospection endpoint not sufficient? Are you thinking
>> there needs to be some multi-tenancy support of some kind?
>>
>> -Brock
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/2018 3:33:16 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just submitted a new draft that Vladimir Dzhuvinov and I have written.
>> It proposes a JWT-based response type for Token Introspection. The
>> objective is to provide resource servers with signed tokens in case they
>> need cryptographic evidence that the AS created the token (e.g. for
>> liability).
>>
>> I will present the new draft in the session on Wednesday.
>>
>> kind regards,
>> Torsten.
>>
>>
>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
>>
>> *Von: *[e-mail]
>> *Betreff: New Version Notification for
>> draft-lodderstedt-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-00.txt*
>> *Datum: *18. März 2018 um 20:19:37 MEZ
>> *An: *"Vladimir Dzhuvinov" <[e-mail]>, "Torsten
>> Lodderstedt" <[e-mail]>
>>
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-lodderstedt-oauth-jwt-in
>> trospection-response-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Torsten Lodderstedt and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:           draft-lodderstedt-oauth-jwt-introspection-response
>> Revision: 00
>> Title:          JWT Response for OAuth Token Introspection
>> Document date:  2018-03-15
>> Group:          Individual Submission
>> Pages:          5
>> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lodder
>> stedt-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-00.txt
>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lodderstedt-
>> oauth-jwt-introspection-response/
>> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-jw
>> t-introspection-response-00
>> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-loddersted
>> t-oauth-jwt-introspection-response
>> <https://datatracker..ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-jwt-introspection-response>
>>
>>
>> Abstract:
>>   This draft proposes an additional JSON Web Token (JWT) based response
>>   for OAuth 2.0 Token Introspection.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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