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I vote for (3) unless a good (4) is suggested.

On 2010-06-27, at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:

> Over the past year many people expressed concerns about the use of the =
=91realm=92 WWW-Authenticate header parameter. The parameter is defined =
in RFC 2617 as required, and is allowed to have scheme-specific =
structure.
> =20
> We have a few options:
> =20
> 1. Leave it as required under the definition of RFC 2617 (i.e. provide =
no help, developers will need to ready 2617 and figure out what to do =
with it).
> 2. Update 2617 to remove the requirement =96 this is not going to be =
easy or possible to predict success.
> 3. Provide specific guidance as to what to do with the realm =
parameter.
> 4. Something else.
> =20
> Comments?
> =20
> EHL
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<html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://96/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; ">I vote for (3) unless a good (4) is =
suggested.<div><br><div><div>On 2010-06-27, at 6:51 PM, Eran =
Hammer-Lahav wrote:</div><br =
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11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Over the past year many people =
expressed concerns about the use of the =91realm=92 WWW-Authenticate =
header parameter. The parameter is defined in RFC 2617 as required, and =
is allowed to have scheme-specific structure.<o:p></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">We have a few =
options:<o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
">1. Leave it as required under the definition of RFC 2617 (i.e. provide =
no help, developers will need to ready 2617 and figure out what to do =
with it).<o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">2. Update 2617 to remove the =
requirement =96 this is not going to be easy or possible to predict =
success.<o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">3. Provide specific guidance as to =
what to do with the realm parameter.<o:p></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
">4. Something else.<o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
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11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
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