Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning
Rob Richards <rrichards@cdatazone.org> Thu, 01 July 2010 18:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning
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Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurtescu@google.com] >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:37 AM >> To: Eran Hammer-Lahav >> Cc: Rob Richards; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) >> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning >> >> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Rob, >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Rob Richards [mailto:rrichards@cdatazone.org] >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:26 AM >>>> To: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Eran Hammer-Lahav >>>> Subject: Versioning >>>> >>>> Versioning is still something that needs to be addressed before being >>>> being able to consider the draft core complete. >>>> >>> Versioning rarely works because when you define it, you have no idea >>> >> what the requirements will be for the next version. A good example is the >> OAuth 1.0 version parameter. When we worked to revised 1.0 into 1.0a, we >> had a long debate on changing the protocol version number. We had a hard >> time agreeing on what the version meant and what was it a version *of*: the >> signature method or the token flow. >> >>> If this protocol will require significant changes in the future that go beyond >>> >> its extensibility support, such a new version will need to use different >> endpoints (token or end-user authorization) and/or different HTTP >> authentication scheme. >> >> I don't think the authz server endpoints are an issue, but the protected >> resources. The auth scheme is very generic, "Token". So either the scheme >> should be more specific, like "OAuth2", or a version should be added as a >> parameter. Maybe a token type as Dick suggested. >> > > HTTP Basic has no version, and I believe Digest doesn't have a version either (though it has been revised from 2069 to 2617). The Token scheme is generic, but also wide open. The only required parameter is 'token' (which makes sense for a Token scheme). I can't come up with a single requirement that would require an explicit version parameter. > > Version discussions are almost always a waste of time because at the time they are debated, no one knows what the requirement for such a feature will be. Versioning usually makes sense in a follow-up revision where the protocol needs a way to differentiate itself from the previous version. > > > Exactly. While it might be needed in the future, there is a need to differentiate OAuth 1.0 from 2.0 on resource endpoints right now. Outside of requiring an oauth_version parameter (or equivalent) all other suggestions leave versioning as a grey area, where things can be interpreted one way or another with no consistency. Grey areas in specs are a bad thing. You end up with different languages/libraries dealing with things in completely different and incompatible ways because something was not clearly spelled out. Rob
- [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Rob Richards
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Rob Richards
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Justin Richer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Justin Richer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Rob Richards
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Justin Richer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning William Mills
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- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Rob Richards
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Rob Richards
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning David Recordon
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
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- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Rob Richards
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Rob Richards
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Rob Richards
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Marius Scurtescu