Re: [OAUTH-WG] Concerning OAuth introspection

Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> Thu, 24 January 2013 15:01 UTC

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From: Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:01:08 -0700
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Well, you *can* have it both ways. But to your point Justin - what's the
value in it? Allowing for both adds a bunch of unnecessary complexity while
only adding flexibility for the sake of flexibility with no tangible
benefit.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Justin Richer <jricher@mitre.org> wrote:

>
> On 01/24/2013 05:56 AM, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>
>>
>> and reword the spec such that it will let those who implement do it with
>> one endpoint or many, whatever is preferred
>>
>>
> That's the whole point of this discussion -- I don't believe you can have
> it both ways.
>