Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer Shepherd Write-up

Sergey Beryozkin <> Fri, 25 April 2014 09:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer Shepherd Write-up
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On 25/04/14 10:24, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> The implementation and deployment status of JWT is certainly good.
> For this write-up it would, however, be interesting to know what the
> implementation status of the JWT bearer assertion spec is.

Was I off-topic ? Sorry about it, I thought it would be encouraging for 
experts to see the general status, the wider JWT is supported the more 
likely the count of JWT Bearer assertion adopters will go up

Cheers, Sergey

> On 04/25/2014 10:50 AM, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>> On 24/04/14 23:41, Mike Jones wrote:
>>> I am aware of these implementations:
>>>      Microsoft Azure Active Directory:
>>>      Google Service Account:
>>> I believe that Ping Identity and Salesforce also have implementations,
>>> but I'll let Brian and Chuck authoritatively speak to those.
>> Here is some info about open source projects:
>> Apache Oltu has a good support for working with JWT, believe Spring
>> Security has it (I haven't tried) and JBoss KeyCloak team works with
>> JWT, work for supporting JWT Bearer is in progress in Apache CXF (a
>> month or so away).
>> There will be a pretty good coverage for it...
>> Sergey
>>>                  -- Mike
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: OAuth [] On Behalf Of Hannes
>>> Tschofenig
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:40 AM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer Shepherd Write-up
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am working on the shepherd writeup for the JWT bearer document. The
>>> shepherd write-ups for the assertion draft and the SAML bearer
>>> document have been completed a while ago already, see
>>> A few requests:
>>> - To the document authors: Please confirm that any and all appropriate
>>> IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP
>>> 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed.
>>> - To all: Are you aware of implementations of this specification? If
>>> so, I would like to reference them in my write-up.
>>> - To all: Please also go through the text to make sure that I
>>> correctly reflect the history and the status of this document.
>>> Here is the most recent version of the write-up:
>>> (The copy-and-paste of the full version is below.)
>>> Ciao
>>> Hannes
>>> PS: Note that I have send a mail about a pending issue to the list. In
>>> response to my question I will update the write-up accordingly.
>>> ----
>>> Writeup for "JSON Web Token (JWT) Profile for OAuth 2.0 Client
>>> Authentication and Authorization Grants"
>>> <draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-08>
>>> (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
>>> Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is
>>> this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the
>>> title page header?
>>> The RFC type is 'Standards Track' and the type is indicated in the
>>> title page. This document defines an instantiation for the OAuth
>>> assertion framework using JSON Web Tokens.
>>> (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement
>>> Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent
>>> examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved
>>> documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections:
>>> Technical Summary:
>>>      This specification defines the use of a JSON Web Token (JWT) Bearer
>>>      Token as a means for requesting an OAuth 2.0 access token as well as
>>>      for use as a means of client authentication.
>>> Working Group Summary:
>>> Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example,
>>> was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions
>>> where the consensus was particularly rough?
>>> This document belongs to the OAuth assertion document bundle
>>> consisting of the abstract OAuth assertion framework, and the SAML
>>> assertion profile. Due to the use of the JSON-based encoding of the
>>> assertion it also relies on the work in the JOSE working group (such
>>> as JWE/JWS) indirectly through the use of the JWT. This document has
>>> intentionally been kept in sync with the SAML-based version.
>>> Document Quality:
>>> This document has gone through many iterations and has received
>>> substantial feedback.
>>> [[Add implementation list here.]]
>>> Personnel:
>>> The document shepherd is Hannes Tschofenig and the responsible area
>>> director is Kathleen Moriarty.
>>> (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by
>>> the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready
>>> for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to
>>> the IESG.
>>> The draft authors believe that this document is ready for publication.
>>> The document has had received review comments from working group
>>> members, and from the OAuth working group chairs. These review
>>> comments have been taken into account.
>>> (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or
>>> breadth of the reviews that have been performed?
>>> This document has gotten feedback from the working group and given the
>>> focused use cases it has received adequate review.
>>> (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from
>>> broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS,
>>> DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that
>>> took place.
>>> Since the OAuth working group develops security protocols any feedback
>>> from the security community is always appreciated.
>>> (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document
>>> Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director
>>> and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is
>>> uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns
>>> whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has
>>> discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to
>>> advance the document, detail those concerns here.
>>> The shepherd has no concerns with this document.
>>> (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR
>>> disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP
>>> 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why?
>>> [[Confirmation from the authors required.]]
>>> (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If
>>> so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR
>>> disclosures.
>>> No IPR disclosures have been filed on this document. However, two IPRs
>>> have been filed for the JWT specification this document relies on, see
>>> (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
>>> represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others
>>> being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it?
>>> The working group has consensus to publish this document.
>>> (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
>>> discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate
>>> email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a
>>> separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.)
>>> No appeal or extreme discontent has been raised.
>>> (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this
>>> document. (See and the
>>> Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this
>>> check needs to be thorough.
>>> The shepherd has checked the nits.
>>> (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review
>>> criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.
>>> There is no such review necessary.
>>> (13) Have all references within this document been identified as
>>> either normative or informative?
>>> Yes.
>>> (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready
>>> for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such
>>> normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion?
>>> Yes.
>>> (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)?
>>> If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in
>>> the Last Call procedure.
>>> RFC 6755 defines the urn:ietf:params:oauth URN and is an Informational
>>> RFC. A downref is required.
>>> However, this document depends on the completion of the abstract OAuth
>>> assertion framework and on the JWT specification.
>>> There are the following dependencies:
>>> (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any
>>> existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed
>>> in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are
>>> not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to
>>> the part of the document where the relationship of this document to
>>> the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the
>>> document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary.
>>> The publication of this document does not change the status of other
>>> RFCs.
>>> (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA
>>> considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with
>>> the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that
>>> the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in
>>> IANA registries.
>>> Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly
>>> identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a
>>> detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that
>>> allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a
>>> reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226).
>>> The document registers two sub-namespaces to the urn:ietf:params:oauth
>>> URN established with RFC 6755.
>>> (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for
>>> future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would
>>> find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries.
>>> The document only adds entries to existing registries and does not
>>> define any new registries.
>>> (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document
>>> Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal
>>> language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc.
>>> There are only snippets of message exchanges and JWT assertion
>>> structures, which are based on JSON, used in the examples. There is no
>>> pseudo code contained in the document that requires validation.
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