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Re: [OAUTH-WG] New OAuth for Browser-Based Apps draft -02

Leo Tohill <leotohill@gmail.com> Tue, 09 July 2019 01:09 UTC

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From: Leo Tohill <leotohill@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 21:08:53 -0400
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] New OAuth for Browser-Based Apps draft -02
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(should I start a new thread instead of making multiple replies to this
message?)

Re: Sec
Typo/grammar in:
"First- party apps are applications where by the same organization that
provides the API being accessed by the application."

Suggested rewrite:
"First- party apps are applications where the same organization provides
both the api and the application."

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 8:44 PM Leo Tohill <leotohill@gmail.com> wrote:

>  regarding 6.1. Apps Served from a Common Domain as the Resource Server
>
> Isn't this recommendation neglecting some benefits  or use cases of
> Oauth?
>
> * An application that doesn't collect user credentials is an app that
> doesn't need to be audited for problems such as password leakage into log
> files.
> * Applications that offload authentication to a identity server can
> delegate to that server the complexities of MFA, password recovery,and the
> like.  Of course these CAN be done in the app, but isn't it sometimes
> better to centralize those features in a identity server?  Especially if
> the organization has multiple apps that require these features.
>
>
> I would soften " it is likely a better decision"  to "it may be a better
> decision".
>
> Leo
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 7:05 PM Aaron Parecki <aaron@parecki.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've just uploaded a new version of oauth-browser-based-apps in
>> preparation for the meeting in Montreal.
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-browser-based-apps-02
>>
>> This draft incorporates much of the feedback I've received over the last
>> couple months, as well as what we discussed at the last meeting in Prague.
>>
>> The primary change is a significant rewrite and addition of Section 6 to
>> highlight the two common deployment patterns, a SPA with and without a
>> dynamic backend.
>>
>> Please have a look and let me know what you think. I have a slot in the
>> agenda for Montreal to present on this as well.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ----
>> Aaron Parecki
>> aaronparecki.com
>>
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