Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when requesting an access token
Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> Tue, 21 September 2010 22:19 UTC
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From: Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com>
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when requesting an access token
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I'm not sure one email from me asking for clarification exactly counts as a movement ;-) I was just thinking that it'd be more consistent to have each uri-defined grant type define it's own parameter set. Really this is what is already happening with the core defined short names - the "authorization_code" grant type defines the "code" param, the "password" grant type defines the "username" and "password" params, and "refresh_token" defines "refresh_token". The "client_credentials" grant type is a little different in that it doesn't directly define parameters but defers to a different part of the spec to do that but a uri extension could conceivably do something similar (point to other specs or other layers in the protocol stack or whatever). Having said all that, however, I do see the logic in what you said about having the one assertion parameter. But, I dunno, it just seems a little awkward there all by itself. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Justin Richer <jricher@mitre.org> wrote: > I personally think it makes a certain amount of sense to have the > assertion parameter: if you have only one thing to say, here's where to > say it. And I think that we've got a few cases of assertions with only a > single string to assert. However, I was always concerned with that > single parameter as the *only* allowed parameter, which Eran has said > won't be a problem. That said, if there's a movement for dropping it in > favor of extension-defined parameter sets, I won't block it. > > -- Justin > > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 17:11 -0400, Brian Campbell wrote: >> Following from that (Justin: "url-defined grant type can also legally >> add and remove parameters from the endpoint, right?" / Eran: "Yes") >> does the assertion parameter still make sense to have in the core >> spec? I had sort of assumed that it would be going away in favor of >> whatever parameters any url-defined grant type would deem necessary. >> However, Eran's "working copy" of draft -11 as of 2010-09-03 still has >> the assertion parameter. Is that area still being worked on or was >> the intent to leave the parameter in for -11? >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> wrote: >> > Yes. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Justin Richer [mailto:jricher@mitre.org] >> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:27 PM >> > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav >> > Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) >> > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when requesting an access token >> > >> > +1 >> > >> > I've never liked the notion of not being able to extend the "grant type" >> > field, and this change addresses that particular gripe. >> > >> > Just so I'm clear here: an extension that defines its own url-defined grant type can also legally add and remove parameters from the endpoint, right? >> > >> > -- Justin >> > >> > On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 17:11 -0400, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: >> >> I would like to make this change in -11: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Instead of the current user of the ‘assertion’ grant type – >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> POST /token HTTP/1.1 >> >> >> >> Host: server.example.com >> >> >> >> Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> grant_type=assertion& >> >> >> >> assertion_type=urn%3Aoasis%3Anames%3Atc%3ASAML%3A2.0%3Aassertion& >> >> >> >> assertion=PHNhbWxwOl[...omitted for brevity...]ZT4%3D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Drop the ‘assertion’ grant type and put the assertion type directly in >> >> the grant_type parameter: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> POST /token HTTP/1.1 >> >> >> >> Host: server.example.com >> >> >> >> Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> grant_type=urn%3Aoasis%3Anames%3Atc%3ASAML%3A2.0%3Aassertion& >> >> >> >> assertion=PHNhbWxwOl[...omitted for brevity...]ZT4%3D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In other words, the grant_type parameter value will be defined as: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - authorization_code >> >> >> >> - password >> >> >> >> - client_credentials >> >> >> >> - refresh_token >> >> >> >> - an abolute URI (extensions) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I considered turning all the values into URIs but found it to be >> >> counter-intuitive. The practice of using “official” short names and >> >> extension URIs is well established and is already the general >> >> architecture used here. This just makes it cleaner. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I ran this idea by Brian Campbell and Chuck Mortimore who are >> >> generally supportive of the idea. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Any objections? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> EHL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > OAuth mailing list >> > OAuth@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >> > > > >
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Justin Richer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when req… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… David Recordon
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… David Waite
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… David Recordon
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Justin Richer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simpilfying use of assertions when… Brian Campbell