Re: [OAUTH-WG] review draft-ietf-oauth-security-topics-13 [3/3]

Hans Zandbelt <hans.zandbelt@zmartzone.eu> Tue, 19 November 2019 09:11 UTC

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 17:10:48 +0800
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] review draft-ietf-oauth-security-topics-13 [3/3]
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On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:38 AM Torsten Lodderstedt <
torsten@lodderstedt.net> wrote:

> Hi Hans,
>
> > On 18. Nov 2019, at 04:11, Hans Zandbelt <hans.zandbelt@zmartzone.eu>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Please find my feedback from page 21 onwards below.
> >
> > Hans.
> >
> > Overall I would argue there's room for a very concise guidance section
> that says: do this, don't do that, without explanation, just as a reference
> for developers; the current text provides in depth analysis but that is
> perhaps not suitable for developers who just want to know what to do (or
> not to do) and don't really care about the background/reasoning
>
> While section 4 gives the raw security threat analysis, we tried to
> summarise the actionable guidance in section 3. What do you miss there?
>

I'd rather see it even shorter and more concise, but I guess you're right,
it is there


> >
> > P21
> > first bullet
> > "the client has bound this data to this particular instance." ->
> particular instance of what?
>
> This bullet refers to the note above.
>
> "Note: this check could also detect attempts to inject a code which
>    had been obtained from another instance of the same client on another
>    device, if certain conditions are fulfilled:"
>

ok, I see


> >
> > 3rd paragraph:
> > "call to the tokens endpoint." -> "call to the token endpoint."
>
> Fixed
>
> >
> > last paragraph could forward point to the next section by adding
> something like
> > "using one of the mechanisms described in the next section."
>
> Incorporated
>
> >
> > P22
> > 3rd paragraph:
> > is the token binding guidance still accurate? it seems to be
> overestimating the adoption
>
> You mean this statement?
>
> "Token binding is
>       promising as a secure and convenient mechanism (due to its browser
>       integration).  As a challenge, it requires broad browser support
>       and use with native apps is still under discussion.”
>

yeah, but after re-reading I guess this actually spells out the adoption
conditions, so it is fine

Hans.


>
> Thanks,
> Torsten.
>
> >
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