Re: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 13 April 2012 16:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)
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Hi All,

So Hannes and Derek and I have been discussing this with
the Apps ADs and Apps-area WG chairs. I've also read the
docs now, and after all that we've decided that this topic
(what to do with swd and webfinger) is best handled in the
apps area and not in the oauth WG.

The logic for that is that 1) the two proposals are doing
the same thing and we don't want two different standards
for that, b) this is not an oauth-specific thing nor is it
a general security thing, and c) there is clearly already
interest in the topic in the apps area so its reasonable
for the oauth wg to use that when its ready.

The appsawg chairs and apps ADs are ok with the work
being done there.

So:-

- I've asked the oauth chairs to take doing work on swd
  out of the proposed new charter
- It may be that you want to add something saying that
  oauth will use the results of work in the applications
  area on a web discovery protocol as a basis for doing
  the dynamic client registration work here
- Discussion of webfinger and swd should move over to
  the apps-discuss list
- Note: this is not picking one or the other approach,
  the plan is that the apps area will do any selection
  needed and figure out the best starting point for a
  standards-track RFC on web discovery and we'll use their
  fine work for doing more with oauth.

Regards,
Stephen.

On 04/12/2012 12:00 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> those who had attended the last IETF meeting may have noticed the ongoing activity in the 'Applications Area Working Group' regarding Web Finger. 
> We had our discussion regarding Simple Web Discovery (SWD) as part of the re-chartering process. 
> 
> Here are the two specifications:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-appsawg-webfinger-03
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-simple-web-discovery-02
> 
> Now, the questions that seems to be hanging around are
> 
>  1) Aren't these two mechanisms solving pretty much the same problem?
>  2) Do we need to have two standards for the same functionality?
>  3) Do you guys have a position or comments regarding either one of them? 
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> PS: Please also let me know if your view is: "I don't really know what all this is about and the documents actually don't provide enough requirements to make a reasonable judgement about the solution space."
> 
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