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From: Yaron Goland <yarong@microsoft.com>
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+1 (for #3->#4)

From: oauth-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of T=
orsten Lodderstedt
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:08 AM
To: Dick Hardt
Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org)
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

+1

Am 28.06.2010 07:37, schrieb Dick Hardt:
I vote for (3) unless a good (4) is suggested.

On 2010-06-27, at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:


Over the past year many people expressed concerns about the use of the 'rea=
lm' WWW-Authenticate header parameter. The parameter is defined in RFC 2617=
 as required, and is allowed to have scheme-specific structure.

We have a few options:

1. Leave it as required under the definition of RFC 2617 (i.e. provide no h=
elp, developers will need to ready 2617 and figure out what to do with it).
2. Update 2617 to remove the requirement - this is not going to be easy or =
possible to predict success.
3. Provide specific guidance as to what to do with the realm parameter.
4. Something else.

Comments?

EHL
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Torsten Lodderstedt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 28, 2010 11:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dick Hardt<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'<o:p></o:p></span></=
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Am 28.06.2010 07:37, schrieb Dick Hardt: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I vote for (3) unless a good (4) is suggested. <o:p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 2010-06-27, at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:<=
o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Over the past year many people expresse=
d concerns about the use of the &#8216;realm&#8217; WWW-Authenticate header=
 parameter. The parameter is defined in RFC 2617 as required, and is
 allowed to have scheme-specific structure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">We have a few options:<o:p></o:p></span=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">1. Leave it as required under the defin=
ition of RFC 2617 (i.e. provide no help, developers will need to ready 2617=
 and figure out what to do with it).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2. Update 2617 to remove the requiremen=
t &#8211; this is not going to be easy or possible to predict success.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3. Provide specific guidance as to what=
 to do with the realm parameter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">4. Something else.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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