Re: [OAUTH-WG] "shared symmetric secret"
Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> Tue, 13 July 2010 14:18 UTC
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From: Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com>
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>From the client's perspective, they are 'shared symmetric secrets' because the client has to store them as-is and present them as-is. The act exactly like passwords. I added that text to make that stand out. When using passwords, the server doesn't need to store them in plain-text either (e.g. uses a way one hash). I would like the specification to make it clear that bearer tokens are only secure while they remain *secret* and that *anyone* holding them can gain full access to what their protect. EHL On 7/12/10 10:39 PM, "Brian Eaton" <beaton@google.com> wrote: > Section 5: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-10#section-5 > > Calling access tokens "shared symmetric secrets" is misleading, > because if they are implemented well the authorization server and > protected resource do not store a copy of the secret. > > Instead they store a one-way hash of the token. Or they verify the > token cryptographically. Under no circumstances do they need to store > a copy. > > I'd suggest the following language: > > "Access tokens are bearer authentication tokens or capabilities." > > Cheers, > Brian > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >
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- Re: [OAUTH-WG] "shared symmetric secret" Brian Eaton
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] "shared symmetric secret" Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] "shared symmetric secret" John Kemp
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] "shared symmetric secret" Igor Faynberg
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- Re: [OAUTH-WG] "shared symmetric secret" Eran Hammer-Lahav
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