Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> Sat, 25 April 2015 12:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Thanks for the catch. I’ll add that and put in a reference to BCP100 in the next revision.

 — Justin

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks all. Justin, please add a comma after the OpenID.Discovery reference.
> From: Kathleen Moriarty <mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
> Sent: ‎4/‎24/‎2015 3:02 PM
> To: Stephen Farrell <mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
> Cc: Justin Richer <mailto:jricher@mit.edu>; draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg@ietf.org <mailto:draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg@ietf.org>; oauth-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:oauth-chairs@ietf.org>; <oauth@ietf.org> <mailto:oauth@ietf.org>; The IESG <mailto:iesg@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> 
> Thank you, both!
> 
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie <mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24/04/15 22:27, Justin Richer wrote:
> > Stephen, I’ve worked on this this afternoon and this is my proposed text:
> >
> >           The response to such a
> >            situation is out of scope for this specification but could include
> >            filing a report with the application developer or authorization
> >           server provider, attempted re-registration with different metadata
> >           values, or various other methods. For instance, if the server also
> >           supports a registration management mechanism such as that defined in
> >           <xref target="OAuth.Registration.Management"/>, the client or
> >           developer could attempt to update the registration with different
> >           metadata values. This process could also be aided by a service
> >           discovery protocol such as <xref target="OpenID.Discovery"/> which
> >           can list a server's capabilities, allowing a client to make a more
> >           informed registration request. The use of any such management or
> >           discovery system is OPTIONAL and outside the scope of this
> >           specification.
> >
> > Does this text work for you?
> 
> It does, nicely.
> 
> Thanks,
> S.
> 
> 
> >
> >  — Justin
> >
> >> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie <mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 24/04/15 13:30, Justin Richer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> OK, so are you asking for something like:
> >>>
> >>> "If the server supports an update mechanism such as [Dyn-Reg-Management]
> >>> and a discovery mechanism such as [OIDC-Discovery], then a smart client
> >>> could use these components to renegotiate undesirable metadata values."
> >>>
> >>> With both of these being informative references? I'm not opposed to it.
> >>
> >> That'd work for me, yes, thanks.
> >>
> >> S.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Best regards,
> Kathleen