Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd Writeup for draft-ietf-oauth-spop-06.txt

Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net> Wed, 18 February 2015 20:16 UTC

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:15:52 +0100
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We don't plan to support s256 

Basically, I don't see a need to. Plain already mitigates the threat, spop/tcse had been designed to mitigate - an app intercepting the code response of a public client.

Am 18. Februar 2015 18:33:17 MEZ, schrieb Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>:
>Thanks Brian for pointing me to Section 4.4.1 and to the MTI for
>"S256".
>While this is good from a security point of view I am wondering whether
>anyone is actually compliant to the specification. Neither PingIdentity
>nor DT implements the S256 transform, if I understood that correctly.
>Are you guys going planning to update your implementations?
>
>Ciao
>Hannes
>
>On 02/18/2015 05:45 PM, Brian Campbell wrote:
>> There's a bit of MTI talk tucked into
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-spop-10#section-4.4.1
>that
>> perhaps needs to be expanded and/or placed somewhere else.
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Hannes Tschofenig
>> <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>     Thanks for the info, Torsten.
>> 
>>     Your feedback raises an interesting question, namely what
>functionality
>>     the parties have to implement to claim conformance to the
>specification.
>> 
>>     Quickly scanning through the specification didn't tell me whether
>it is
>>     OK to just implement the plain mode or whether both modes are
>>     mandatory-to-implement. We have to say something about this.
>> 
>>     Ciao
>>     Hannes
>> 
>> 
>>     On 02/18/2015 02:16 PM, torsten@lodderstedt.net
>>     <mailto:torsten@lodderstedt.net> wrote:
>>     > Hi Hannes,
>>     >
>>     > our implementation supports the "plain" mode only. We just
>verified
>>     > compliance of our implementation with the current spec. As the
>only
>>     > deviation, we do not enforce the minimum length of 43
>characters
>>     of the
>>     > code verifier.
>>     >
>>     > kind regards,
>>     > Torsten.
>>     >
>>     > Am 17.02.2015 17:48, schrieb Hannes Tschofenig:
>>     >> Hi Torsten,
>>     >>
>>     >> does this mean that your implementation is not compliant with
>the
>>     >> current version anymore or that you haven't had time to verify
>>     whether
>>     >> there are differences to the earlier version?
>>     >>
>>     >> Ciao
>>     >> Hannes
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> On 01/31/2015 05:34 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote:
>>     >>> Deutsche Telekom also implemented an early version of the
>draft last
>>     >>> year.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Am 30.01.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Brian Campbell
>>     >>> <bcampbell@pingidentity.com
><mailto:bcampbell@pingidentity.com>
>>     <mailto:bcampbell@pingidentity.com
>>     <mailto:bcampbell@pingidentity.com>>>:
>>     >>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Hannes Tschofenig
>>     >>>> <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net
><mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>
>>     <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net
>>     <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>>> wrote:
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>     1) What implementations of the spec are you aware of?
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> We have an AS side implementation of an earlier draft that
>was
>>     >>>> released in June of last year:
>>     >>>>
>>    
>http://documentation.pingidentity.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=26706844
>>     >>>>
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