Re: [OAUTH-WG] [apps-discuss] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> Mon, 23 April 2012 14:54 UTC

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From: Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com>
To: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
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Cc: 'Tim Bray' <tbray@textuality.com>, Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com>, oauth@ietf.org, 'Apps Discuss' <apps-discuss@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] [apps-discuss] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)
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Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> writes:

>
> Why not MUST ASN.1 while you're at it? JSON has won in case
> you'all haven't noticed it.

Well, now that you mention it...   ;-)

But seriously, we're basing this work on an RFC that was just release
six months ago and it requires XML.  Why be so quick to drop something
we just published half a year ago?  So maybe in 6 months we drop JSON
and add the next big thing?  Come on, Mike.

I agree, we should definitely support JSON.  But I also think we should
support XML.  The client can do what it wants, which is where want the
light weight implementation.

> Mike

-derek

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