Re: [OAUTH-WG] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-27: (with COMMENT)

Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> Tue, 07 April 2015 22:09 UTC

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From: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
To: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>, Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-27: (with COMMENT)
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I think that the current SHOULD is more realistic.  In the real world, particularly while developing and testing, people will have many iterations of pre-release software for a given version, all of which will likely be identified with the intended version number before the final release of that version of the software is made.

				-- Mike

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Subject: Re: Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-27: (with COMMENT)

On 7 Apr 2015, at 13:03, Phil Hunt wrote:

> Section 2:
>>
>> The software_version "SHOULD change on any update identified with the 
>> same software_id" --why not MUST? What happens if this doesn't 
>> happen?
>
>
> The group didn’t necessarily agree to make software_version mandatory 
> to provide. Thus the word, SHOULD seemed appropriate to indicate that 
> if used it SHOULD change from version to version. That said, I am ok 
> with MUST (e.g. if software_version is used, it MUST change...).
>
> In answer to your question what happens: this is not so much a 
> security issue (in the traditional sense of an attacker), but rather a 
> regular software versioning/maintenance issue. The idea is that some 
> client software updates may prove to be buggy (or have performance
> issues) and service providers may want to be able to refuse some 
> versions of client software while accepting others (e.g. 2.5 is broken 
> and causes DoS issues, while 2.5.1 is acceptable).  If a version is 
> not provided, than an AS’s only choice is to ban all versions and 
> force the client developer to use or obtain a different software_id 
> for future registrations.

Thanks for the response. I can live with either a SHOULD or a MUST, but if the SHOULD stays, it would be good to add a sentence or two to the effect of the above paragraph. That being said, "If used, it MUST change" seems to be more precise if that fits the WG intent.