Re: [OAUTH-WG] client certs and TLS Terminating Reverse Proxies (was Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-08.txt)

Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> Mon, 28 October 2019 12:42 UTC

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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 06:41:48 -0600
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] client certs and TLS Terminating Reverse Proxies (was Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-08.txt)
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 3:55 PM Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.ietf@gmail.com>;
wrote:

>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 3:47 PM Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com>;
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I did look at RFC7239 when doing that and it could have been made to work
>> but felt the fit wasn't quite right and would have been more cumbersome to
>> use than not.
>>
>>
> Can you elaborate on this?
> These days, with the zero trust model in mind, there are orchestration
> tools, e.g. Istio, that easily allows you to establish an MTLS channel
> between the reverse proxy/load balancer/API GW and the backend servers.
> Why is that not sufficient?
> Which part is cumbersome?
>

What I meant was only that in the course of writing
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tokbind-ttrp-09, which aims to
define HTTP header fields that enable a TLS terminating reverse proxy to
convey information to a backend server about the validated Token Binding
Message received from a client, it seemed more straightforward and
sufficient for the use-case to use new HTTP headers to carry the
information rather than to use new fields in the Forwarded header framework
from RFC7239.

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