Re: [OAUTH-WG] Future of PoP Work

Ludwig Seitz <ludwig@sics.se> Tue, 25 October 2016 05:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Future of PoP Work
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On 2016-10-19 20:45, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> two questions surfaced at the last IETF meeting, namely
>
> 1) Do we want to proceed with the symmetric implementation of PoP or,
> alternatively, do we want to move it over to the ACE working group?
>
> 2) Do we want to continue the work on HTTP signing?
>
> We would appreciate your input on these two questions.
>
> Ciao
> Hannes & Derek
>


Hello,

maybe my 2-cents as author of the ACE draft that needs PoP can 
contribute something here:

I would also prefer that you guys make the PoP specs and I just make a 
ACE profile on top of them. However the ACE work is moving forward and 
the PoP work at OAuth seems to be stuck.

I've currently taken what was available form draft-ietf-oauth-pop-* and 
moved the relevant text into draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz (acknowledging 
the original authors of course), since it was unclear to me what the 
future status of the pop drafts would be.

I'm absolutely willing to remove the text again and reference an OAuth 
WG document instead, if I feel it will not significantly delay the 
progress of the ACE draft.

Hope this information helps in the decision making.


Regards,

Ludwig



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