Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer
Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Wed, 09 May 2012 20:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer
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On 05/09/2012 01:26 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > Hi Mike, > > On 05/09/2012 08:34 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: >> On 05/09/2012 12:17 PM, Eran Hammer wrote: >>> Whoever you talk to for legal advice about IPR issues related to >>> standards you might implement. My only point is, this group is not >>> qualified to comment on IPR matters. >> The IETF gets to decide whether it wants to create standards that >> use (potentially) encumbered IP. It is the wg's responsibility to >> decide whether it is a necessary evil, or whether the damage can be >> routed around. How a working group does that without having a >> discussion is a mystery to me. > Yeah, its tricky stuff. The key point as I understand it is > not to get into discussion about licensing arrangements or > other commercial matters, nor about the validity of the IPR > itself, which are not our business. While we may or may not > have opinions that 90+% of the output of all patent offices > in the ICT space is pure rubbish, those are not directly > relevant for the WG. If you're not sure, ask the chairs or > me and we can try help. Yes, I completely agree. > > The question is as Hannes stated: does this new information > change the WG's opinion of this document or not. Silence is > taken to mean "not" in this case. > That's not what I read Eran as asking for: "So no discussion of this is expected on the list - correct?" That a lot different from "off topic discussion". Mike
- [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Eran Hammer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Eran Hammer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Michael Thomas
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Eran Hammer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Eran Hammer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Michael Thomas
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Stephen Farrell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Eran Hammer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Michael Thomas
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Stephen Farrell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Sam Hartman
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Eliot Lear
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Dick Hardt