Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth session at IETF-79

Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net> Sat, 16 October 2010 09:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth session at IETF-79
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  Am 15.10.2010 19:52, schrieb David Recordon:
> Hey Hannes, I'd like to at least explain my reasoning behind not 
> planning to go to the China meeting because it really isn't 
> restrictions around travel. This is likely inpolitic to say, but it's 
> because of how much of a waste of my time the LA meeting was. The LA 
> meeting contained numerous people who weren't – and still aren't – 
> engaged in this working group who felt that they should argue with 
> us repeatedly around how what we were doing was wrong and already 
> solved by Kerberos. That trip was only two days, but China will easily 
> be a week. So for me it is about what is the best use of my time, not 
> just how much it costs.
>
> I'd love to have another face to face meeting between people working 
> actively on deploying OAuth 2.0. I hope that IIW in a few weeks will 
> provide a venue for some of that. But if it's in Europe then I'll go 
> to Europe. For me it is about who is (and isn't) going to be there 
> rather than where the meeting is physically located.

I fully agree with you. Unfortunately, I had assumed to meet the WG 
people at IETF meetings and it's to late for me to arrange for a travel 
to IIW (mainly du to administrative proccess).

regards,
Torsten.
>
> --David
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) 
> <hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Torsten,
>
>     We have to figure out what the most efficient way is to get our work
>     done.
>
>     With the Prague IETF we will see again whether there is a need for
>     face-to-face meeting. We had phone conference calls earlier this
>     year as
>     well. That's another option to make progress in addition to the
>     usage of
>     the mailing list.
>
>     Attending the IETF meetings is useful to get a better understanding of
>     the big picture and that's why I go there.  However, I understand that
>     others have travel restrictions. Meetings outside the US, like
>     this one,
>     are obviously more expensive for those who are based in the US.
>
>     Ciao
>     Hannes
>
>     > -----Original Message-----
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>     > On Behalf Of ext torsten@lodderstedt.net
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>     > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 2:13 PM
>     > To: Eliot Lear; igor.faynberg@alcatel-lucent.com
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>     > Cc: oauth@ietf.org <mailto:oauth@ietf.org>
>     > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth session at IETF-79
>     >
>     > What is the alternative from your point of view?
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Torsten.
>     > ------Originalnachricht------
>     > Von: Eliot Lear
>     > An:igor.faynberg@alcatel-lucent.com
>     <mailto:An%3Aigor.faynberg@alcatel-lucent.com>
>     > Cc:Lodderstedt, Torsten
>     > Cc:oauth@ietf.org <mailto:Cc%3Aoauth@ietf.org>
>     > Betreff: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth session at IETF-79
>     > Gesendet: 15. Okt. 2010 13:10
>     >
>     >  I agree with Hannes' approach.  What happened in Maastricht
>     > was that we
>     > ended up with  bifurcated discussions- in the room and on the list.
>     > That didn't seem very productive.
>     >
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