Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of Draft-ietf-dyn-reg

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 18 February 2015 15:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of Draft-ietf-dyn-reg
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:07 AM, John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> wrote:

> snip
>
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:46 AM, Kathleen Moriarty <
> kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The client_id *could* be short lived, but they usually aren't. I don't
>> see any particular logging or tracking concerns using a dynamic OAuth
>> client above using any other piece of software, ever. As such, I don't
>> think it requires special calling out here.
>>
>
> Help me understand why there should not be text that shows this is not an
> issue or please propose some text.  This is bound to come up in IESG
> reviews if not addressed up front.
>
>>
>>
> The client_id is used to communicate to the Authorization server to get a
> code or refresh token.  Those tokens uniquely identify the user from a
> privacy perspective.
> It is the access tokens that are sent to the RS and those can and should
> be rotated, but the client)id is not sent to the RS in OAuth as part of the
> spec.
>
> If you did rotate the client_id then the AS would track it across
> rotations, so it wouldn’t really achieve anything.
>
> One thing we don’t do is allow the client to specify the client_id, that
> could allow correlation of the client across multiple AS and that might be
> a privacy issue, but we don’t allow it.
>

Thanks, John.  It may be helpful to add in this explanation unless there is
some reason not to?

>
> John B.
>
>


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Best regards,
Kathleen