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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: William Mills <wmills_92105@yahoo.com>
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Yeah, I still need 1.0a to work which I was hoping to replace with MAC.=0A=
=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@m=
icrosoft.com>=0ATo: William Mills <wmills_92105@yahoo.com>; Torsten Lodders=
tedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net> =0ACc: O Auth WG <oauth@ietf.org> =0ASent: T=
uesday, August 14, 2012 12:44 PM=0ASubject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 1.0a=0A =
=0A=0A =0AAgreed.=C2=A0 Use Bearer now.=C2=A0 If you have requirements that=
 Bearer *can=E2=80=99t* meet, please use them as input to the working group=
=E2=80=99s future work.=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -- Mike=0A=C2=A0=0AFrom:Torsten Lod=
derstedt [mailto:torsten@lodderstedt.net] =0ASent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012=
 12:43 PM=0ATo: William Mills=0ACc: Mike Jones; O Auth WG=0ASubject: Re: [O=
AUTH-WG] OAuth 1.0a=0A=C2=A0=0AHi Bill,=0A=0Ado you need to specify this as=
pect of your SASL profile now? Why don't you wait for the group to complete=
 the work on signing/HoK? =0A=0AYou could also contribute your use cases to=
 drive the discussion.=0A=0Abest regards,=0ATorsten.=0AAm 14.08.2012 21:37,=
 schrieb William Mills:=0AIt's for the OAUTH SASL spec. =C2=A0I've been wri=
ting it with the idea that OAuth 1.0a would work (since I think we'll have =
extant 1.0a typ[e tokens we want to allow for IMAP), but several folks were=
 saying when this all started that 1.0a was dead and I should not refer to =
it.=0A>=C2=A0=0A>I want to make sure the SASL mechanism is build to properl=
y handle signed auth schemes and not just bearer (cookie) type. =C2=A0=0A>=
=C2=A0=0A>-bill=0A>=C2=A0=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> =0A>F=
rom:Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>=0A>To: William Mills <wmills_9=
2105@yahoo.com>; O Auth WG <oauth@ietf.org> =0A>Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2=
012 12:28 PM=0A>Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 1.0a=0A>=C2=A0=0A>What proble=
m are you trying to solve?=0A>=C2=A0=0A>From:oauth-bounces@ietf.org [mailto=
:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of William Mills=0A>Sent: Tuesday, Augus=
t 14, 2012 12:22 PM=0A>To: O Auth WG=0A>Subject: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 1.0a=0A>=
=C2=A0=0A>What's the general opinion on 1.0a? =C2=A0Am I stepping in someth=
ing if I refer to it in another draft? =C2=A0I want to reference an auth sc=
heme that uses signing and now MAC is apparently going back to the drawing =
board, so I'm thinking about using 1.0a.=0A>=C2=A0=0A>Thanks,=0A>=C2=A0=0A>=
-bill=0A>=C2=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________________=
_______=0A>OAuth mailing list=0A>OAuth@ietf.org=0A>https://www.ietf.org/mai=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Yeah, I st=
ill need 1.0a to work which I was hoping to replace with MAC.</span></div><=
div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', t=
imes, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div style=3D"font-family: 'times new roma=
n', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font s=
ize=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bo=
ld;">From:</span></b> Mike Jones &lt;Michael.Jones@microsoft.com&gt;<br> <b=
><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> William Mills &lt;wmills=
_92105@yahoo.com&gt;; Torsten Lodderstedt &lt;torsten@lodderstedt.net&gt; <=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> O Auth WG &lt;oauth=
@ietf.org&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> T=
uesday, August 14, 2012 12:44 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:
 bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 1.0a<br> </font> </div> <b=
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le>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217WordSection1">=0A<div class=3D"=
yiv1633875217MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060;">Agr=
eed.&nbsp; Use Bearer now.&nbsp; If you have requirements that Bearer *<b>c=
an=E2=80=99t</b>* meet, please use them as input to the working group=E2=80=
=99s future work.</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div c=
lass=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#0020=
60;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; -- Mike</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div>=
=0A<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:windowtext;"> Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:torsten@lodderstedt.n=
et]=0A<br>=0A<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:43 PM<br>=0A<b>To:</b=
> William Mills<br>=0A<b>Cc:</b> Mike Jones; O Auth WG<br>=0A<b>Subject:</b=
> Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 1.0a</span></div> =0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<div class=3D=
"yiv1633875217MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Hi Bill,<br>=0A<br>=0Ado you need to s=
pecify this aspect of your SASL profile now? Why don't you wait for the gro=
up to complete the work on signing/HoK?=0A<br>=0A<br>=0AYou could also cont=
ribute your use cases to drive the discussion.<br>=0A<br>=0Abest regards,<b=
r>=0ATorsten.</div> =0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal">Am 14.=
08.2012 21:37, schrieb William Mills:</div> =0A</div>=0A<blockquote style=
=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D=
"yiv1633875217MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;">It's for the OAUTH SAS=
L spec. &nbsp;I've been writing it with the idea that OAuth 1.0a would work=
 (since I think we'll have extant 1.0a typ[e tokens we want to allow for IM=
AP), but several folks were saying when this=0A all started that 1.0a was d=
ead and I should not refer to it.</div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"y=
iv1633875217MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"> &nbsp;</div> =0A</div>=
=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;=
">I want to make sure the SASL mechanism is build to properly handle signed=
 auth schemes and not just bearer (cookie) type. &nbsp;</div> =0A</div>=0A<=
div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"> &=
nbsp;</div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal" style=
=3D"background:white;">-bill</div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv163=
3875217MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"> &nbsp;</div> =0A</div>=0A<di=
v>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal" align=3D"center"=
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=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;"> Mike Jones=0A<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:Michael.Jones@mic=
rosoft.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com">&=
lt;Michael.Jones@microsoft.com&gt;</a><br>=0A<b>To:</b> William Mills <a re=
l=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:wmills_92105@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:wmills_92105@yahoo.com">&lt;wmills_92105@yahoo.com&gt;</a>; =
O Auth WG=0A<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:oauth@ietf.org" target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:oauth@ietf.org">&lt;oauth@ietf.org&gt;</a> <br>=0A<=
b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:28 PM<br>=0A<b>Subject:</b> RE: [OA=
UTH-WG] OAuth 1.0a</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoN=
ormal" style=3D"background:white;"> &nbsp;</div> =0A<div id=3D"yiv163387521=
7">=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal" style=
=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060;">What=
 problem are you trying to solve?</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div cla=
ss=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;color:#002060;">&nbsp;</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div=
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0in;">=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv1633875217MsoNormal" style=3D"background:=
white;"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;">=0A<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:oauth-bounces@=
ietf.org" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org">oauth-bo=
unces@ietf.org</a> [<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:oauth-bounces@iet=
f.org" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:oaut=
h-bounces@ietf.org</a>]=0A<b>On Behalf Of </b>William Mills<br>=0A<b>Sent:<=
/b> Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:22 PM<br>=0A<b>To:</b> O Auth WG<br>=0A<b>S=
ubject:</b> [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 1.0a</span></div> =0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=
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217MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;">What's the general opinion on 1.0=
a? &nbsp;Am I stepping in something if I refer to it in another draft? &nbs=
p;I want to reference an auth scheme that uses signing and now MAC is appar=
ently going back to the drawing board,=0A so I'm thinking about using 1.0a.=
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