Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749
Hans Zandbelt <hzandbelt@pingidentity.com> Wed, 03 September 2014 16:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749
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Let me try and approach this from a different angle: why would you call it an open redirect when an invalid scope is provided and call it correct protocol behavior (hopefully) when a valid scope is provided? Hans. On 9/3/14, 6:46 PM, Antonio Sanso wrote: > hi John, > On Sep 3, 2014, at 6:14 PM, John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com > <mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com>> wrote: > >> In the example the redirect_uri is vlid for the attacker. >> >> The issue is that the AS may be allowing client registrations with >> arbitrary redirect_uri. >> >> In the spec it is unspecified how a AS validates that a client >> controls the redirect_uri it is registering. >> >> I think that if anything it may be the registration step that needs >> the security consideration. > > (this is the first time :p) but I do disagree with you. It would be > pretty unpractical to block this at registration time…. > IMHO the best approach is the one taken from Google, namely returning > 400 with the cause of the error.. > > *400.* That’s an error. > > *Error: invalid_scope* > > Some requested scopes were invalid. {invalid=[l]} > > said that I hope you all agree this is an issue in the spec so far…. > > regards > > antonio > >> >> John B. >> >> On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Bill Burke <bburke@redhat.com >> <mailto:bburke@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >>> I don't understand. The redirect uri has to be valid in order for a >>> redirect to happen. The spec explicitly states this. >>> >>> On 9/3/2014 11:43 AM, Antonio Sanso wrote: >>>> hi *, >>>> >>>> IMHO providers that strictly follow rfc6749 are vulnerable to open >>>> redirect. >>>> Let me explain, reading [0] >>>> >>>> If the request fails due to a missing, invalid, or mismatching >>>> redirection URI, or if the client identifier is missing or invalid, >>>> the authorization server SHOULD inform the resource owner of the >>>> error and MUST NOT automatically redirect the user-agent to the >>>> invalid redirection URI. >>>> >>>> If the resource owner denies the access request or if the request >>>> fails for reasons other than a missing or invalid redirection URI, >>>> the authorization server informs the client by adding the following >>>> parameters to the query component of the redirection URI using the >>>> "application/x-www-form-urlencoded" format, perAppendix B >>>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#appendix-B>: >>>> >>>> Now let’s assume this. >>>> I am registering a new client to the victim.com <http://victim.com> >>>> <http://victim.com> >>>> provider. >>>> I register redirect uri attacker.com <http://attacker.com> >>>> <http://attacker.com>. >>>> >>>> According to [0] if I pass e.g. the wrong scope I am redirected back to >>>> attacker.com <http://attacker.com> <http://attacker.com>. >>>> Namely I prepare a url that is in this form: >>>> >>>> http://victim.com/authorize?response_type=code&client_id=bc88FitX1298KPj2WS259BBMa9_KCfL3&scope=WRONG_SCOPE&redirect_uri=http://attacker.com >>>> >>>> and this is works as an open redirector. >>>> Of course in the positive case if all the parameters are fine this >>>> doesn’t apply since the resource owner MUST approve the app via the >>>> consent screen (at least once). >>>> >>>> A solution would be to return error 400 rather than redirect to the >>>> redirect URI (as some provider e.g. Google do) >>>> >>>> WDYT? >>>> >>>> regards >>>> >>>> antonio >>>> >>>> [0] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-4.1.2.1 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OAuth mailing list >>>> OAuth@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bill Burke >>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat >>> http://bill.burkecentral.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OAuth mailing list >>> OAuth@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OAuth mailing list >> OAuth@ietf.org <mailto:OAuth@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > > > > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > -- Hans Zandbelt | Sr. Technical Architect hzandbelt@pingidentity.com | Ping Identity
- [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Bill Burke
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Takahiko Kawasaki
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Bill Burke
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Hans Zandbelt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Sergey Beryozkin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Sergey Beryozkin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Bill Burke
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] open redirect in rfc6749 Antonio Sanso