Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT binding for OAuth 2.0

Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com> Tue, 14 April 2015 23:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT binding for OAuth 2.0
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The recent scim notify draft does pub sub using jwts. 

Phil

> On Apr 14, 2015, at 15:02, Prabath Siriwardena <prabath@wso2.com> wrote:
> 
> It can be a JSON payload over JMS or even MQTT.. 
> 
> I have seen some effort to create an MQTT binding for OAuth 2.0 - but then again for each transport we need to have a binding..
> 
> But - creating a message level binding would be much better IMHO..
> 
> Thanks & regards,
> -Prabath
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 2:55 PM, John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> wrote:
>> Most of the pub sub things I have seen use HTTP transport.  Do you have a pointer to the protocol?
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Prabath Siriwardena <prabath@wso2.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks John for the pointer - will have look..
>>> 
>>> I am looking this for a pub/sub scenario..  Having JWT binding would benefit that..
>>> 
>>> Also - why I want access token to be inside a JWT is - when we send a JSON payload in this case, we already have the JWT envelope and the access token needs to be carried inside..
>>> 
>>> Thanks & regards,
>>> -Prabath
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 2:41 PM, John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> wrote:
>>>> There is a OAuth binding to SASL https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-oauth-19
>>>> 
>>>> Google supports it for IMAP/SMTP,  I think the latest iOS and OSX mail client updates use it rather than passwords for Google.
>>>> I also noticed Outlook on Android using it.
>>>> 
>>>> The access token might be a signed or encrypted JWT itself.  I don’t know that wrapping it again necessarily helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes we should have bindings to other non http protocols.  
>>>> 
>>>> Is there something specific that you are looking for that is not covered by SASL?
>>>> 
>>>> John B.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Prabath Siriwardena <prabath@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> At the moment we only HTTP binding to transport the access token (please correct me if not)..
>>>>> 
>>>>> This creates a dependency on the transport.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How about creating a JWT binding for OAuth 2.0..? We can transport the access token as an encrypted JWT header parameter..?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>> Prabath
>>>>> 
>>>>> Twitter : @prabath
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