Subject: Re: [oauth] Last Call for Comments: OAuth Charter Text
From: George Fletcher <[email-masked]>
To: Eran Hammer-Lahav <[email-masked]>
Cc: "Tschofenig, Hannes \(NSN - FI/Espoo\)" <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:46:11 -0500
List-Id: Oauth bof discussion <oauth.ietf.org>

So what is the plan for existing extensions written against OAuth 1.0 
core? Will they be supported? or will they need to be re-written? Should 
the charter take into consideration the extensions that are already 
deployed? (e.g. Scalable OAuth?)

Thanks,
George

Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:
> No. 'extension points' mean the spec allowing new signature methods, parameter methods, etc. The ways in which the spec allows it to be extended. Not extension proposals.
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> EHL
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>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf
>> Of George Fletcher
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:18 AM
>> To: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
>> Cc: [email-masked]
>> Subject: Re: [oauth] Last Call for Comments: OAuth Charter Text
>>
>> Just to clarify... does the following quote from the charter...
>>
>> "This specifically means that as a starting point for the working group
>> the OAuth 1.0 specification is used and the available extension points
>> are going to be utilized."
>>
>> .... mean that all extensions either checked in at oauth.pbwiki.com,
>> the
>> svn repository, or the
>> draft-dehora-farrell-oauth-accesstoken-creds-00.txt that Stephen
>> mentions will all be considered?
>>
>> Or will only certain extensions be considered for inclusion into the
>> 1.0
>> version?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> George
>>
>> Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> we have now discussed the charter text for some time and we got good
>>> feedback. I have tried to reflect it in an appropriate way.
>>>
>>> I think it is about time to finish this part of the story. Please
>>>       
>> review
>>     
>>> the current charter text and make a judgement whether we can move
>>> forward with it.
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>> Hannes
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>       
>> ---
>>     
>>> -------------
>>>
>>> Open Authentication Protocol (oauth)
>>>
>>> Last Modified: 2009-01-30
>>>
>>> Chair(s):
>>>
>>> TBD
>>>
>>> Applications Area Director(s):
>>>
>>> Chris Newman <[email-masked]>
>>> Lisa Dusseault <[email-masked]>
>>>
>>> Applications Area Advisor:
>>>
>>> TBD
>>>
>>> Mailing Lists:
>>>
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth
>>>
>>> Description of Working Group:
>>>
>>> OAuth allows a user to grant a third-party Web site or application
>>> access to their resources, without revealing their credentials, or
>>>       
>> even
>>     
>>> their identity. For example, a photo-sharing site that supports OAuth
>>> would allow its users to use a third-party printing Web site to
>>>       
>> access
>>     
>>> their private pictures, without gaining full control of the user
>>> account.
>>>
>>> OAuth consists of:
>>>   * A mechanism for exchanging a user's credentials for a token-
>>>       
>> secret
>>     
>>> pair that can be used by a third party to access resources on their
>>> behalf.
>>>   * A mechanism for signing HTTP requests with the token-secret pair.
>>>
>>> The Working Group will produce one or more documents suitable for
>>> consideration as Proposed Standard, based upon the OAuth I-D, that
>>>       
>> will:
>>     
>>>   * Align OAuth with the Internet and Web architectures, best
>>>       
>> practices
>>     
>>> and terminology.
>>>   * Assure good security practice, or document gaps in its
>>>       
>> capabilities,
>>     
>>> and propose a path forward for addressing the gap.
>>>   * Promote interoperability.
>>>   * Provide guidelines for extensibility.
>>>
>>> This specifically means that as a starting point for the working
>>>       
>> group
>>     
>>> the OAuth 1.0 specification is used and the available extension
>>>       
>> points
>>     
>>> are going to be utilized. It seems desireable to profile OAuth 1.0 in
>>>       
>> a
>>     
>>> way that produces a specification that is a backwards compatible
>>> profile, i.e. an OAuth 1.0 implementation and the specification
>>>       
>> produced
>>     
>>> by this group must support a basic set of features to guarantee
>>> interoperability.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, OAuth 1.0 defines three signature methods used to
>>>       
>> protect
>>     
>>> requests, namely PLAINTEXT, HMAC-SHA1, and RSA-SHA1. The group will
>>>       
>> work
>>     
>>> on new signature methods and will describe the environments where new
>>> security requirements justify their usage. Existing signature methods
>>> will not be modified but may be dropped as part of the backwards
>>> compatible profiling activity. The applicability of existing and new
>>> signature methods to protocols other than HTTP will be investigated.
>>>
>>> In doing so, it should consider:
>>>   * Implementer experience.
>>>   * Existing uses of OAuth.
>>>   * Ability to achieve broad impementation.
>>>   * Ability to address broader use cases than may be contemplated by
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> original authors.
>>>   * Impact on the Internet and Web.
>>>
>>> The Working Group is not tasked with defining a generally applicable
>>> HTTP Authentication mechanism (i.e., browser-based "2-leg" scenerio),
>>> and should consider this work out of scope in its discussions.
>>>       
>> However,
>>     
>>> if the deliverables are able to be factored in such a way that this
>>>       
>> is a
>>     
>>> byproduct, or such a scenario could be addressed by additional future
>>> work, the Working Group may choose to do so.
>>>
>>> After delivering OAuth, the Working Group may consider defining
>>> additional functions and/or extensions, for example (but not limited
>>> to):
>>>   * Discovery of authentication configuration.
>>>   * Message integrity.
>>>   * Recommendations regarding the structure of the token.
>>>
>>> Goals and Milestones:
>>>
>>> Apr 2009    Submit 'OAuth: HTTP Authorization Delegation Protocol' as
>>> working group item
>>>             (draft-hammer-oauth will be used as a starting point for
>>> further work.)
>>> Sep 2009    Start Working Group Last Call on 'OAuth: HTTP
>>>       
>> Authorization
>>     
>>> Delegation Protocol'
>>> Sep 2009    Discusion about OAUTH extensions the group should work on
>>> Nov 2009    Submit 'OAuth: HTTP Authorization Delegation Protocol' to
>>> the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard
>>> Nov 2009    Prepare milestone update to start new work within the
>>>       
>> scope
>>     
>>> of the charter
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