Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?
Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> Sat, 07 March 2020 16:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?
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Brian: does that meet your requirements? If not, how about if we refer to OIDC as an example extension without saying it is implicit? ᐧ On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 8:29 AM Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net> wrote: > I think keeping the response type as extension point and not mentioning > implicit at all is sufficient to support Brian’s objective. > > Am 07.03.2020 um 17:06 schrieb Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>: > > > How about if we add in a nonnormative reference to OIDC as an explicit > example of an extension: > > "For example, OIDC defines an implicit grant with additional security > features." > > or similar language > ᐧ > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 5:27 AM Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> > wrote: > >> The name implicit grant is unfortunately somewhat misleading/confusing >> but, for the case at hand, the extension mechanism isn't grant type so much >> as response type and even response mode. >> >> The perspective shared during the office hours call was, paraphrasing as >> best I can, that there are legitimate uses of implicit style flows in >> OpenID Connect (that likely won't be updated) and it would be really nice >> if this new 2.1 or whatever it's going to be document didn't imply that >> they were disallowed or problematic or otherwise create unnecessary FUD or >> confusion for the large population of existing deployments. >> >> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 1:56 PM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm looking to close out this topic. I heard that Brian and Vittorio >>> shared some points of view in the office hours, and wanted to confirm: >>> >>> + Remove implicit flow from OAuth 2.1 and continue to highlight that >>> grant types are an extension mechanism. >>> >>> For example, if OpenID Connect were to be updated to refer to OAuth 2.1 >>> rather than OAuth 2..0, OIDC could define the implicit grant type with all >>> the appropriate considerations. >>> >>> >>> ᐧ >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:49 PM Dominick Baier < >>> dbaier@leastprivilege.com> wrote: >>> >>>> No - please get rid of it. >>>> >>>> ——— >>>> Dominick Baier >>>> >>>> On 18. February 2020 at 21:32:31, Dick Hardt (dick.hardt@gmail.com) >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey List >>>> >>>> (I'm using the OAuth 2.1 name as a placeholder for the doc that Aaron, >>>> Torsten, and I are working on) >>>> >>>> Given the points Aaron brought up in >>>> >>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/oauth/hXEfLXgEqrUQVi7Qy8X_279DCNU >>>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone have concerns with dropping the implicit flow from the >>>> OAuth 2.1 document so that developers don't use it? >>>> >>>> /Dick >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OAuth mailing list >>>> OAuth@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >>>> >>>> >> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and >> privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any >> review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited.. >> If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender >> immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any file attachments from >> your computer. Thank you.* > > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > >
- [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dominick Baier
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Vittorio Bertocci
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Jared Jennings
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Justin Richer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Jared Jennings
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt