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From: Eve Maler <eve@xmlgrrl.com>
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Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:49:06 -0700
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To: John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com>
Cc: "oauth@ietf.org" <oauth@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Implementation Support and Community
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Perhaps relatedly, in the UMA group we've been defining feature tests =
for interoperability testing, and since UMA uses OAuth, we wondered if =
any OAuth feature tests exist; we couldn't find any. That might be =
another activity worthy of being taken up by such a community. (Both UMA =
and OpenID Connect are using the OSIS.idcommons.net wiki for interop =
testing.)

	Eve

On 23 Aug 2012, at 7:51 AM, John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> wrote:

> The openID foundation is in a position of promoting OAuth 2 now as a =
significant dependency of openID Connect and other work.
>=20
> I can ask the board if there is a interest in hosting something =
specific for OAuth 2.  =20
>=20
> I agree with Justin, now that the core spec is done there needs to be =
some consideration put to marketing and support by someone.=20
> This WG has new work items to progress so we probably don't want to =
get bogged down with that in this group.
>=20
> I will wait to see the discussion on this here before asking OIDF or =
anyone else if they want to set something up.
>=20
> John B.
> On 2012-08-23, at 10:38 AM, Justin Richer wrote:
>=20
>> With the core specs basically out the door and seeing wider adoption =
and publicity, the OAuth community is going to start to get more =
questions about "how do I do X?", and many of these are questions that =
have been answered before or seem "obvious" to those of us who have been =
up to our ears in the spec for the past few years. Nevertheless, these =
are important questions to support for the wellbeing of the protocol =
community, but where should they be asked?
>>=20
>> When the OAuth community lived on a simple Google Group, these kinds =
of questions make sense. But I'd argue that the IETF list is not really =
the right place for them. This list, and the IETF in general, seems to =
be best suited for *building* the protocol, not for the *use* and =
*support* of said protocol once it's built.
>>=20
>> The problem is that, as of right now, we don't have anywhere to point =
people where they could get a "real" answer.
>>=20
>> This opens a larger question of who might "sponsor" or "host" such a =
community. Anything like that needs moderators, and more importantly, =
needs experts willing to answer the questions. Some options I can think =
of:
>>=20
>> - Revive the google groups list for these kinds of =
questions/discussions
>> - Start a new list/forum, linked to oauth.net
>> - Point everyone to StackOverflow with an "oauth" tag
>>=20
>>=20
>> -- Justin (who is not volunteering himself to host or moderate the =
group)
>> _______________________________________________
>> OAuth mailing list
>> OAuth@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth
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> _______________________________________________
> OAuth mailing list
> OAuth@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth


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