Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?
Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> Sat, 07 March 2020 23:25 UTC
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From: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 15:25:19 -0800
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?
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Would you clarify what text works Brian? On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 3:24 PM Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> wrote: > Yeah, that works for me. > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 9:37 AM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Brian: does that meet your requirements? >> >> If not, how about if we refer to OIDC as an example extension without >> saying it is implicit? >> ᐧ >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 8:29 AM Torsten Lodderstedt < >> torsten@lodderstedt.net> wrote: >> >>> I think keeping the response type as extension point and not mentioning >>> implicit at all is sufficient to support Brian’s objective. >>> >>> Am 07.03.2020 um 17:06 schrieb Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>: >>> >>> >>> How about if we add in a nonnormative reference to OIDC as an explicit >>> example of an extension: >>> >>> "For example, OIDC defines an implicit grant with additional security >>> features." >>> >>> or similar language >>> ᐧ >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 5:27 AM Brian Campbell < >>> bcampbell@pingidentity.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The name implicit grant is unfortunately somewhat misleading/confusing >>>> but, for the case at hand, the extension mechanism isn't grant type so much >>>> as response type and even response mode. >>>> >>>> The perspective shared during the office hours call was, paraphrasing >>>> as best I can, that there are legitimate uses of implicit style flows in >>>> OpenID Connect (that likely won't be updated) and it would be really nice >>>> if this new 2.1 or whatever it's going to be document didn't imply that >>>> they were disallowed or problematic or otherwise create unnecessary FUD or >>>> confusion for the large population of existing deployments. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 1:56 PM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm looking to close out this topic. I heard that Brian and Vittorio >>>>> shared some points of view in the office hours, and wanted to confirm: >>>>> >>>>> + Remove implicit flow from OAuth 2.1 and continue to highlight that >>>>> grant types are an extension mechanism. >>>>> >>>>> For example, if OpenID Connect were to be updated to refer to OAuth >>>>> 2.1 rather than OAuth 2..0, OIDC could define the implicit grant type with >>>>> all the appropriate considerations. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ᐧ >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:49 PM Dominick Baier < >>>>> dbaier@leastprivilege.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No - please get rid of it. >>>>>> >>>>>> ——— >>>>>> Dominick Baier >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18. February 2020 at 21:32:31, Dick Hardt (dick.hardt@gmail.com) >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey List >>>>>> >>>>>> (I'm using the OAuth 2.1 name as a placeholder for the doc that >>>>>> Aaron, Torsten, and I are working on) >>>>>> >>>>>> Given the points Aaron brought up in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/oauth/hXEfLXgEqrUQVi7Qy8X_279DCNU >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have concerns with dropping the implicit flow from the >>>>>> OAuth 2.1 document so that developers don't use it? >>>>>> >>>>>> /Dick >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OAuth mailing list >>>>>> OAuth@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and >>>> privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any >>>> review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited.. >>>> If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender >>>> immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any file attachments from >>>> your computer. Thank you.* >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OAuth mailing list >>> OAuth@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >>> >>> > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and > privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any > review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any file attachments from > your computer. Thank you.*
- [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dominick Baier
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Vittorio Bertocci
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Jared Jennings
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Justin Richer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Jared Jennings
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow? Dick Hardt