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Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> Sun, 06 April 2014 17:50 UTC

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From: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
To: Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com>
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OpenID Connect defines how it happens for OpenID Connect.  Other dynamic OAuth use cases still definitely need this.

From: Phil Hunt [mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 10:49 AM
To: Mike Jones
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

So in other words, OpenID Connect defines (or should define) how this happens.

There is no need for the Dyn Reg spec to clarify this right?

Phil

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On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com<mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>> wrote:


As a point of clarity, OpenID Connect does not mandate support for dynamic registration in all cases.  In static profiles with a pre-established set of identity providers, it isn't required.  It *is* required in the dynamic profile, in which clients can use identity providers that they have no pre-existing relationship with.

                                                            -- Mike

From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Torsten Lodderstedt
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 12:59 AM
To: Bill Mills
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

I think it is at the discretion of the actual deployment whether clients may dynamically register or not (meaning they need to go through some oob mechanism). Protocols utilizing OAuth could make it part of their mandatory to implement features - in the same way OIDC does.

Best regards,
Torsten.
Am 06.04.2014 um 07:12 schrieb Bill Mills <wmills_92105@yahoo.com<mailto:wmills_92105@yahoo.com>>:
To me the fundamental question of whether a client has to be registered in each place it is used is quite significant.  We don't address the problem and have not discussed it enough.

-bill
On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:39 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net<mailto:torsten@lodderstedt.net>> wrote:
Hi Bill,

which scalability problem are you referring to? As far as I remember there were issues around the management API but not the core protocol.

regards,
Torsten.

Am 04.04.2014 um 18:41 schrieb Bill Mills <wmills_92105@yahoo.com<mailto:wmills_92105@yahoo.com>>:
Given the fundamental scalability problem we discussed in London do we really feel we're ready?
On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:07 AM, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net<mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>> wrote:
Hi all,

This is a Last Call for comments on the dynamic client registration
documents:

* OAuth 2.0 Dynamic Client Registration Core Protocol
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-16

* OAuth 2.0 Dynamic Client Registration Metadata
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-metadata-00

Since we have to do the last call for these two documents together we
are setting the call for **3 weeks**.

Please have your comments in no later than April 25th.

Ciao
Hannes & Derek

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