Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth vs OAuth2 in Authorization header

Marius Scurtescu <mscurtescu@google.com> Thu, 15 July 2010 18:57 UTC

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From: Marius Scurtescu <mscurtescu@google.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:56:49 -0700
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth vs OAuth2 in Authorization header
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On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> wrote:
> Framing the argument against "having a 2 in it" as bikeshedding is missing the point. My reason against using OAuth2 is that is will undermine all the work put in to build an extensible framework that can evolve without needing a whole new version. By putting a version number, we make it more attractive to change the protocol than extend it.

Sure, but clearly there is no evolution from OAuth 1 to OAuth 2. If
the next version of OAuth is an evolution of OAuth 2 then it probably
should not be called OAuth 3 but rather OAtuh 2.1 and then header and
parameter names can be kept the same. At some point a new revolution
will be needed and then OAuth 3 is appropriate, as well as new header
and parameter names.

Marius