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From: "Jim Wing (J W)" <jwwing@vnet.ibm.com>
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Date: 18 March 1993
To: OIW ODA SIG Participants (Attachment E)
Brenda Gray, OIW Administrator
cc: COS, OSINET, EWOS, AOW
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From: Jon A. Stewart, Acting Chair of ODA SIG and
Chair, Interoperability Testing Subgroup
Subject:
Minutes of the Meeting of the ODA SIG at the
OSE Implementors Workshop, March 9-11, 1992
Attachments:
____________
A) One Slide Summary of Meeting
B) CATG Minutes (Content Architecture Task Group of TLC)
C) Liaisons to CALS and AIIM re Raster DAP progression
D) Terminology -- Abbreviations/Acronyms used in reports
E) Contact information for current and (recent-) past attendees,
official liaisons, potential new members and other interested
F) Document Registry from this meeting
1 ATTENDANCE (SEE ATTACHMENT E FOR CONTACT INFO)
Jon Stewart, Consultant, Quality One Softworks Corp.,
Acting ODA SIG Chair and Chair, Testing Subgroup
Jim Wing, IBM, Chair, Text Subgroup
Frank Spielman, NIST, Chair, Raster Subgroup
Patrick Stephens, DEC
Alexis Cheng, IBM Canada
Imran Akhtar, MicroSoft
Joanna Vanderbilt, Consultant, Adept Computing
Annette Shuford, US Navy, David Taylor Model Basin
Lynne Rosenthal, NIST (parttime & CATG)
Greg Varga, Keyword Office Tech., Canada
Carlton Neville, Consultant, Neville Associates (parttime & CATG)
2 SUMMARY OF MEETING
See attachment A -- the Summary Slide. Additional notes
are provided here.
Page 2
The agenda adopted had mainly to do with preparation for
Pagoda 13 scheduled for the end of the month; the progression
and philosophy for dealing with the Level 2 to Level 3 Migration
DAP; and some ISO/CCITT alignments required for the Raster DAP
(FOD112). Documents to be considered were handed out and given
ODA SIG document numbers (see registry, attachment F).
SGML-community concern over ODA SIG endorsement of Neville
comments (re NIST APP reference to ODA and SGML usage) from the
December meeting was discussed. Carlton Neville and Jon Stewart
had had extended telephone conversations with Charles Goldfarb
about Carlton's and the ODA SIG's comments. SGML concern was
"resolved" by the ODA SIG's agreement to deal only with comments
on the ODA (and ODL) use in the Application Portability Profile,
and leave the SGML comments to Charles Goldfarb and others from
the SGML community. During the meeting an update of the APP was
received; interestingly, it had been completely rewritten for
SGML, had a much smaller section for ODA, and still had the
omission of ODL in all references to ODA in that section. Both
sections were titled "DOCUMENT INTERCHANGE" as had been the
recommendation of the ODA SIG. The SIG endorsed dropping any
reference to either ODIF or ODL encoding, and just use "ODA"
throughout that section of the APP. A comment will be forwarded
to Fritz Schultz and Gary Fisher to that effect.
Patrick Stephens, DEC, provided the tutorial on "The
Capabilities of the ODA Consortium Toolkit" -- soon to be
released with a bargain price of $50 for single use, runtime
license on a PC; and something of the order of $5K for a source,
porting license. This very low pricing was enthusiastically
welcomed by SIG members as an excellent way to promote
widespread use of ODA. Products based on the toolkit should
begin to show up during the latter half of 1993.
3 ACTIONS/RESOLUTIONS AND OUTPUT DOCUMENTS
Resolutions passed unanimously at the ODA SIG plenary and
OIW plenary as follows:
o W+ -- Add text of part 27, Level 2 to Level 3 Migration DAP
as modified (Ed. Patrick Stephens will provide)
o AE -- Modify the optional "application comments" attribute
to contain two fields. This is necessary to align with
three other ISPs.
o EE -- Changes to stable agreements parts 22,23 to the ODA
version attribute value to agree with ISO/IEC/ CCITT
requirements.
Page 3
Liaisons passed unanimously at the ODA SIG plenary and
agreed to by the OIW plenary:
o Information -- ODA SIG delegation to Pagoda 13, 3/30-4/2/93
to be: Jim Wing (Head of Delegation), Frank Spielman,
Patrick Stephens.
o Liaison/contribution to Pagoda 13 (ODA SIG 93/0314 #W4),
AOW, EWOS, and CCITT outlining the OIW ODA SIG position and
proposals on ISP enhancments, as follows:
- Guidelines for additional functionality
- Guidelines for new DAPs
- Longevity of existing DAPs
o Take to Pagoda 13 the OIW contributions related to image
applications proposed ISPs -- FOD112 changes, ODA SIG
position on FOD126, urgency in publication of ISO 8613:1993.
o Send letter to DoD (CALS Office and DISA) and AIIM notifying
them of revision to part 23 (ODA raster DAP) in stable
agreements.
o Liaison to AOW, EWOS, CCITT submitting comments on the draft
ISP ISRs for level 2 ODA DAP submitted by EWOS. Comments
document to be attached is Pagoda 13 contributin #W1 as
revised in the Text subgroup.
o Liaison to AOW with copy to EWOS and CCITT supporting
continued progress in ATCs.
4 FUTURE MEETINGS
PAGODA #13 UK March 30- April 2, 1993
OIW ODA SIG NIST Jun 8-10 1993
Page 4
ATTACHMENT A: MEETING SUMMARY
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OIW ODA SIG REPORT
March 9-11, 1993
10 attendees, plus 4 additional for the tutorial
Highlights:
- Discussed Application Portability Profile (APP) reference
to ODA and SGML.
- Discussed need for new SIG for content architectures,
recommendations will be available.
- Approved changes to Parts 22 and 23.
- Progressed Part 27 for migration DAP from FOD26 to FOD36.
Technical Activities:
* Image application subgroup:
- Approved a technical change to Part 23 (ODA Raster DAP)
to modify the "application comments" attribute.
- Approved editorial change to the value for "ODA-version"
in both Part 22 and Part 23.
- Prepared liaison statements to DoD and AIIM concerning
changes to the ODA Raster DAP.
- Prepared PAGODA 13 contributions: 1) Revisions and
additions to FOD112 pDISP; 2) OIW ODA SIG position on
development of FOD126 pDISP; 3) urgency in publication of
ISO 8613.
* Text processing subgroup:
- Reviewed and provided comments to workshops on the
proposed ISR proforma from EWOS
- Reviewed and revised level 2 to level 3 migration DAP.
This DAP will be Part 27 of the working agreements to be
used to help generate a migration ISR for FOD36.
- Prepared contributions for PAGODA 13: 1) comments on ISP
Proforma proposal from EWOS; 2) general requirements for
ISR Proforma; 3) Position on conformance testing; 4)
position on ISP enhancements.
* Interoperability subgroup:
- Reviewed testing methodology technical report.
- Reviewed fidelity criteria for evaluating I14Y quality.
- Reviewed project budget and new sponsorship proposal.
- Reviewed new product directions, possible future I14Y
testing needs.
- Discussed change of technical consultants.
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ATTACHMENT B: Minutes of the CATG Meeting -- 10 March 1993 4:30-5:30pm
______________________________________________________________________
From: Jon A. Stewart, Acting Chair
Attendees: ODA SIG Members
Carlton Neville, Neville Associates
Lynne Rosenthal, NIST
This was the 3rd meeting of the CATG that I have chaired; many
of the topics previously discussed were revisited, including:
o Required capabilities of a "wrapper" or interface from
content to "the world" (applications, formatters, DAs, etc.)
o Critical requirements for preserving information
content (objects) for long durations (e.g., 50 years
for Boeing aircraft documentation)
o Independence and neutrality of content objects to various
applications -- e.g., potential use of a a CGM content object
in both an SGML documents and an ODA document
o Difficulty (some said impossible) of describing all
the processing methods (such as content transforms,
layout, imaging) required for particular content types
o Interaction of content types, e.g., character text
content within a CGM content object
o Need for independent content profiles -- such as those
being developed for CGM, in CALS and elsewhere
Although this has been useful brainstorming it does seem that
there is no great interest from the current members of the OIW
(including ODA SIG members) in continuing this activity except
in relationship to ODA's use of content described in separate
standards (such as CGM). Jim Wing did express the view that
CGM profile work should be under the OIW so that requirements
for ODA usage (and other content "clients" such as an SGML/CALS
application ) of CGM could be appropriately coordinated.
Lynne Rosenthal reported that the work on CGM profile development
and interoperability testing is proceeding satisfactorily with
the ODA-coordinating process being driven by EWOS, and with US
participation through NIST and the ANSI X3H3 committe (and its
representation in JTC1/SC24). As new content types (such as audio,
video, other character content than that described in ODA -- e.g.,
Unicode) become more important then interest may grow and justify
the formation of a new SIG that might be named Multimedia Content
Objects or Information Interchange Objects. We will meet again at
the next OIW and reconsider this TLC/CATG activity; perhaps it should
be suspended until sufficient membership interest can be awakened.
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ATTACHMENT C: Liaison Statements from Raster Subgroup
_____________________________________________________
OIW/ODA 93/0319
To: Mr. Bill Gorham
CALS Integration and Evaluation Office
Mr. Alan Peltzman
DISA
Ms. Jean Baronas
AIIM
Mr. Jim Crawford
CALS Industry Steering Group
From: Mr. Jon Stewart
Acting Chair, OIW ODA SIG
Date: March 12, 1993
RE: Revisions to ODA Raster DAP, Stable Implementation
Agreements
At the March 1993 OIW meeting, the OIW/ODA SIG approved revisions
to the ODA Raster DAP in NIST Special Publication 500-206, Stable
Implementation Agreements for Open Systems Interconnection
Protocols Version 6 Edition 1, December 1992.
The "application comments" attribute now consist of two fields.
The attachment describes the specific changes. This action was
necessary to align the DAP with the International Standards
Profiles (FOD11, FOD26, FOD36). The error was detected during
verification of the ODA Raster DAP using the ODA Conformance
Testing (ODA-CT) tool.
In addition, the value of the "ODA version" attribute was changed
according to actions approved by International standards bodies
(see attachment). This action is necessary to properly reference
the joint CCITT/ISO publication of ODA which incorporates the tiled
raster graphics and additional bit order mapping addenda.
Sincerely,
Jon Stewart
Acting Chair, OIW ODA SIG
Page 7
ATTACHMENT D: Acronyms/Abbreviations:
_____________________________________
OIW - OSE Implementors Workshop
OSE - Open Systems Environment
EWOS - European Workshop on Open Systems
AOW - Asian-Oceanic Workshop (for OSI)
ATC/S - Abstract Test Case/Suite
FU - Functional Unit (testable feature of a DAP;
a k a Abstract Effect)
ISR - Implementation Support Requirement(s)
NIST - US National Institute for Standards and Technology
AIIM - American Institute for Image Management
PAGODA - Profile Alignment Group for ODA
ISP - International Standard Profile -- Includes:
Part 1) DAP; Part 2) ISRs Part 3) ATS for Part 2
FOD11/Q111/PM-11/T.502 - Level 1 DAP
FOD26/Q112/PM-26/T.505 - Level 2 DAP
FOD36/Q113/PM-36/T.506 - Level 3 DAP
FOD112 - Image DAP
FOD126 - Raster DAP
NOTE: Qxxx DAPs have been superceded by FODxx; the FODs have new
format and new features (FUs) beyond their Qxxx predecessors.
ATTACHMENT E: E-mail and Telephone/FAX Contact Information for ODA SIG
_______________________________________________________________________
Telephone (US or Canada Unless + Indicated)
Name Work FAX E-mail Address
Affiliation; Address for Hard copy mailing
_________________________________________________________________________
Attendees at Most Recent Meeting: 9-11 March 1993
_________________________________________________________________________
Jon Stewart 603-881-1247 881-0120 stewart@ddif.enet.dec.com
Quality One Softworks Corp., 24 Hillcrest Dr., Harvard MA 01451
Jim Wing 817-962-4646 962-3480 jwwing@vnet.ibm.com
IBM, Standards, Dallas
Frank Spielman 301-975-3257 590-0932 spielman@nist.gov
NIST, raster interest
Pat Stephens +353-91-51271 91-54444 stephens@galvia.enet.dec.com
DEC, Galway, Ireland
Annette Shuford 301-227-1618 shuford@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Dept. of Navy, DTMB @ DNSWC
Joanna Vanderwilt 206-939-1179 71207.2765@compuserve.com
Adept Computing, 1910 19th Dr. NE, Auburn, WA 98002
Alexis Cheng 416-448-3670 448-4414 alexis@vnet.ibm.com
IBM, Internationalization, Toronto, Canada
Imran Akhtar 206-936-4397 936-MSFAX imrana@microsoft.com
Microsoft
Lynne Rosenthal 301-975-3353 590-0932 lsr@ecf.csl.nist.gov
NIST, CGM interest
Carlton Neville 703-620-5000
Neville Associates
Greg Varga 403-250-1770 250-1964 keyword!greg@uunet.UU.NET
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Keyword Office Technology
_________________________________________________________________________
Recent-Past Attendees (* = more or less "officially" resigned)
_________________________________________________________________________
Michelle Oh 703-883-7477 883-5491 m23371@mwunix.mitre.org
Mitre M/S W956 7525 Colshire Dr. Mclean VA 22102 or mso@mitre.org
Harold Shinsato 415-813-7022 shinsato.osbu_north@xerox.com
XEROX Parc 3400 Hillview Rd. PO Box 10034, Palo Alto,CA 94303
Christian Kunz 510-748-6850 kunz@ilt.com
Interlinear Technology
Dan Wu 703-487-8409 dwu@dgis.dtic.dla.mil
DoD DISA/Center for Standards
Alan Peltzman 703-487-8409 487-8342 peltzmaa@cc.ims.disa.mil
DoD DISA/Center for Standards
*Paul Pedersen pedersen@mqou16.enet.dec.com
3345 Boisclair, Brossard, Quebec, Canada J4Z-2C3
*Rick Pond 416-448-3222 448-4414 pond@torolab2.vnet.ibm.com
IBM Canada, replaced by Alexis Cheng
_________________________________________________________________________
OIE ODA SIG Liaisons, Chairs, Convenors, Administrators, etc.
_________________________________________________________________________
Brenda Gray NIST, OIW Administrator gray@osi.ncsl.nist.gov
Steve Price Convenor, JTC1/SC18/WG3 xu9sgp@sunc.shef.ac.uk
Ian Campbell-Grant I.Campbell-Grant.bra0118
ICL, Chief Ed., ODA @oasis.icl.co.uk
Nancy Pierce 703-205-2750 nkp@cos.com
COS, 8260 Willow Oaks Corp. Dr. FAX: Fairfax, VA 22031
Gary E. Fisher 301-975-3275 590-0932 gfisher@nist.gov
NIST, Ed. APP, Tech.Bldg. Room B266 Gaithersburg, MD 20899
Charles Goldfarb IBM, Ed. SGML gml@almaden.vnet.ibm.com
ATTACHMENT F: DOCUMENT REGISTRY
ODA SIG # Title Dated Doc. Ref./Source
____________________________________________________________________________
93/0301 Fax to Ian Campbell-Grant (DAP Issues) 02/23/93 Spielman
93/0302 Fax from Ian Campbell-Grant(DAP Issues)02/26/93 EWOS/IC-Grant
93/0303 Revision to ODA Raster DAP 02/25/93 Spielman
93/0304 Appl. Comments in Raster DAP (message) 02/19/93 R. Carr
93/0305 Version in DAPs (message) 03/05/93 Silbiger
93/0306 Pagoda #13 Contributions ODA SIG/Raster
93/0307 On the future development of DAPs EWOS/EGODA 93/018
93/0308 Proposed PT on SGML/ODA convergence 01/20/93 EWOS/EGODA 93/022
93/0309 Regional Workshops on CGM Profiles 02/12/93 EOWS/EGODA 93/023
93/0310 EWOS Tech. Workshop on CGM Profiles 03/15/93 U.Loughborough,UK
93/0311 Draft of Level 2 to Level 3 Migration DAP Stephens
93/0312 New Market Requirements for ODA 01/20/93 EOWS/EGODA 93/024
93/0313 Minutes of Pagoda #12 10/23/92 Wing
93/0314 Contrib. #W1 to #W4 to Pagoda 13 03/11/93 ODA SIG/Text
93/0315 ATC Directory (disks to Joanna V.) Wing
93/0316 FOD 26 ISR -- Working Draft Ian Valentine
93/0317 Status of ODA Interoperability Testing 03/01/93 Stewart
93/0318 Raster DAP & ANSI/AIIM MS-53 (Layout) Spielman
93/0319 Liaison Statements from Raster SG 03/11/93 Raster SG