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   OFFICIAL MINUTES OF OIW MDDI SIG
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Subject: Minutes of MDDI/OIW Dec 7-9, 1993


Minutes of the Multimedia Data/Documents Interchange (MDDI) SIG
of the Open System Environment (OSE) Implementors' Workshop (OIW)
_________________________________________________________________

by: Jon A. Stewart, Acting Chair and
 Jim Wing, Chair of ODA Text Processing Subgroup

Meeting Held: December 7-9, 1993,  at NIST, Gaithersburg, MD

Background/Overview of the Meeting

   The MDDI SIG meeting is held in conjunction with the OSE
   Implementors' Workshop in Gaithersburg, MD, once each quarter.  The
   purpose of the meeting is to create stable implementors' agreements
   which facilitate Multimedia Data and Document Interchange based on
   open standards -- including use of ODA, DFR, SGML/HyTime, MHEG, MPEG,
   JPEG, T.4 and T.6 fax, CGM, and other relevant defacto and
   formal standards.

   The MDDI SIG develops regional (North American/US) positions for the
   OIW workshop, and considers contributions and proposals to that end,
   including taking positions on issues that affect harmonization with usage
   profiles and implementation support requirements developed by the other
   regional workshops (European Workshop for Open Systems or EWOS,
   Asia-Oceanic Workshop or AOW). These profile development and
   conformance/interoperability testing efforts typically culminate
   in International Standard Profiles (ISPs) and related Federal Information
   Processing Standards (FIPS).

Details

  This meeting involved...
  o   Work on DFR Taxonomy and Profiles -- Conducted Jointly with EWOS
      and AOW Representatives
  o   Work on ODA ISRs, DAPs and Interoperability Testing
  o   Discussion of Techniques for Profiling Multi/Hypermedia Applications
  o   Demonstrations by NIST Personnel (Ron Wilson, Craig Russell,
      Greg Thornwall, Migaly Linker) of Interoperability Testing Methods
   for Revisable and Final Form Document Interchange
  o   Work on ODA Content Issues -- CGM, Raster, Character Sets

DFR
   The OIW hosted a regional workshop DFR coordinating committee
   meeting to establish plans for profile work on DFR.  OIW MDDI SIG
   accepted editorship of one part of the taxonomy (ADF13) that resulted
   from the meeting.  Bill Howell of IBM Software Solutions was
   named editor of the OIW part.

ODA ISPs Part 1
   The final texts for all three of the current ODA ISPs were sent
   to ISO for publication during the first week of September 1993.
   Availability of the published documents is now up to ISO.

FOD36
   Work on an ISR for FOD36 has not begun.  Jim Wing, IBM Software
   Solutions, agreed to assume the editorship of Part 27 of the OIW
   Agreements which is intended for use as a guide for development
   of a proposal for a severely limited ISR for FOD36.  The first
   step will be to update Part 27 to the current text for FOD26/FOD36
   which served as the basis for Part 27 (aka FOD26E).

ODA Level 2 ISR
   The version 4 document was received in late November.  Discussion
   resulted in the acceptance of comments provided by Jim Wing.  It
   was agreed that Jim would complete the comments using information
   taken from the OIW version of the ISR which is currently a working
   document of the MDDI SIG (section 2 of Part 17 of the Working
   Agreements).

ODA Level 2 ATS
   The ODA subgroup proposed to begin work on the ATS for level 2 ISP
   by pointing to a document produced by CEC which is proposed as the
   major input to EWOS for ATS.  By pointing to this document from
   Part 17 of the Working Agreements, the MDDI SIG makes the document
   official and begins the process of achieving Stable Agreement.  The
   documents can also be made available in softcopy for review.

ISO 2022
   A proposal was received from EWOS to create profiles from the
   technical reports for ISO 2022 Coded Character Set Environment.
   The MDDI SIG prepared a liaison response stating that we need
   more time to study the proposal.

Multimedia
   Barry Hudson, Westinghouse, presented the state of the multimedia
   technologies.  He demonstrated some of the functionality he has
   been studying.  Discussion following the presentation was aimed
   at a workplan to establish functional standardization for multimedia.
   SGML/HyTime and ODA were put forward as candidates.  Barry and Jon Stewart
   are the leaders of the effort.

SGML
   SGML experts had conflicting meetings so did not attend.

   Ed Levinson, Accurate Information Systems, presented a proposal for
   using MIME to support interchange of SGML documents on Internet.
   His proposal addresses issues of functional standardization which are
   not being addressed in current products such as naming for system
   independence, protection against system commands, and awareness of
   processing instructions' potential for abuse.  Ed is looking for potential
   implementors to provide the next step in creating an Internet standard
   from this proposal.

CGM
   CGM experts did not attend.  A liaison was prepared stating support
   of CGM profiling effort and questioning the lack of a CGM profile
   of comparable functionality to that recommended in FOD26.

Tutorial
   The subject of the tutorial was Interoperability Testing for Revisable
   and Final Form Document Interchange.  After short discussion,
   demonstrations were shown of SGML Interchange and ODA, PDF, and RTF
   Interchange using various products.


Attachment A: Attendance
________________________

Attendance of MDDI SIG at OIW -- December 7-9, 1993
==============================================================
NOTATION:   PT = parttime,
            VSL= Visitor Speaker and/or Liaison
                 on Subject/from Organization--
              E.g., VS;MIME, VL;DFR-CC
==============================================================

Jon A. Stewart (JAS)......................301-975-3633 W(ork)
Quality One Softworks Corp................301-926-3696 F(AX)
13208 Bristlecone Way Apt. #13, Germantown, MD 20874
Acting Chair: MDDI SIG and ODA Interoperability Testing
E-mail:  jstewart@sst.ncsl.nist.gov

Carol Paden...............................607-751-4542 W
IBM FSC...................................607-751-2800 F
1801 State Route 17C, Owego, NY 13827
E-mail: cpaden@owgvm0.vnet.ibm.com

Paul Kennedy..............................415-813-7651 W
Xerox, XSoft Division.....................415-813-7893 F
3400 Hillview Ave.,  Palo Alto;, CA 94401
E-mail: pkennedy.osbu-north@xerox.com

Michael M. Medenis........................602-538-5515/5459 W
DoD JITC..................................602-538-4375 F
Attn: TCDBA(Medenis)
Fort Huachuca, AZ 85613-7020
E-mail: medenism@huachuca-jitcosi.army.mil
        or medenism@cc.ims.disa.mil

David L. Webb (PT)........................602-538-5458
JITC
Attn: TDDBA (NITF)
Fort Huachuca, AZ 85613-7020

Bernhard Paul (VL; DFR-CC/EWOS)..........+49-6221-594400 W
IBM Germany..............................+49-6221-593400 F
D-69020 Heidelberg, Germany
E-mail: b-paul@vnet.ibm.com

Yoshiaki Watanabe (VSL; DFR-CC/AOW)......+81-43-297-6479 W
IBM Japan Systems Engr...................+81-43-297-4836 F
1-1, Nakase, Mihama-ku, Chiba-City, Japan
E-mail: nabe@vnet.ibm.com

Jim Wing.................................817-962-4646 W
IBM Software Solutions Div...............817-962-3480 F
MS 06-03-70
Roanoke, TX 76299
Chair: ODA Text Processing Subgroup
E-mail: jwwing@vnet.ibm.com

Maj. Pete Klopfenstein (PT)..............703-487-8342 W
DISA/JIEO/TB.............................703-487-8425 F
11440 Isaac Newton Square
Reston, VA 22090
E-mail: klopfenp@cc.ims.disa.mil

Ed Levinson	(VS;MIME)....................903-389-5550 W
Accurate Info. Systems...................908-389-5556 F
2 Industrial Way, Eatontown, NJ 07224
E-mail: elevinson@accurate.com

Barry Hudson
Westinghouse
Acting Chair:  Multimedia/Hypermedia Structure

Sandra Swearingen (PT from OSE-TC)
USAF St. Louis, MO

John Weis (PT)...........................703-235-4555
IRS

Frank Spielman...........................301-975-3257 				
NIST
Chair:  ODA Raster Subgroup		
E-mail: spielman@speckle.ncsl.nist.gov

Carlton Neville (PT)   703-620-5000
Neville Associates

TUTORIAL ATTENDANCE:
____________________

Above plus:

Mitchell Ross...........HFSI........703-827-6389
Jon Becker..............Unisys......215-986-2752
Ed Lengyel..............DEC.........508-467-4709
Jenny Chung.............NCTC........202-282-0221
Jack Harrington.........HP..........508-659-3517
.....E-mail: jackh@hpangrb.an.hp.com




ATTACHMENT B: Liaisons
______________________


           FROM  TO           DESCRIPTION
           SIG
          _________________________________________________

           MDDI  EWOS/EG-ODA  DFR PROFILE.  ACCEPT
           /ODA  (DFR)        EDITORSHIP OF ADF13 DFR
                              PROFILE.


           MDDI  EWOS/TLG-CS  CHARACTER SET TECHNICAL
           /ODA               REPORT


           MDDI  EWOS/EG-     CONCERN ON CGM PROFILES
           /ODA  CGM,         ALIGNMENT WITH THE ODA FOD26
                 EG-ODA       DAP FUNCTIONALITY TAXONOMY
                              EXTENSIONS

           MDDI  EWOS/AOW     SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE
           /ODA  AND ITU-S    ODA LEVEL 2 ISR RESULTING
                              FROM THE REVIEW OF THE
                              DOCUMENT PROVIDED BY EWOS


________________________________________________________________


ATTACHMENT C: Overview Slide


Summary of MDDI/ODA Meeting -- 7-9 December 1993
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Attendance: 14 for SIG, 15 for Tutorial & NIST Demo
            Acting Chair: Jon A. Stewart (JAS)

General Accomplishments/Activities:
*    Met with DFR reps from EWOS, AOW, chaired by Yoshi Watanabe
     of AOW

*    DFR Profile Taxonomy and terms of reference approved, OIW
     will edit ADF13 (Bill Howell, IBM, Dallas)

*    ODA and SGML Interoperability testing demo by NIST
     (Ron Wilson, Craig Russell, Steve Otto, Migaly Lenker)

*    Interesting tutorial/presentation by Ed Levinson on use of
     MIME for SGML interchange (substitute for SDIF)

Text Processing Subgroup: (Jim Wing, Chair)
*    Reviewed ISRs for FOD26, comparing current OIW draft to
     ISP 11181-2

*    Liaison to EWOS, AOW, ITU-TS submitting comments on the
     FOD26 ISR

*    Prepared change pages for working agreement part 17 adding a
     section for ATS pointing to the "CEC CTS ODA II ISR for
     Generation and Reception Testing"

Multimedia Subgroup: (Barry Hudson, Acting Chair)
*    Presentation and demo of CD-ROM standalone multimedia
  application -- a digitized DoE Conference, on the Mac,
  by Barry Hudson, Westinghouse Savannah River Co.

*    Brainstorming on application profiling; Barry Hudson and
     Westinghouse co-workers are developing application scenarios and
     profiles, should have working draft for discussion at next OIW

Neutral Content Architectures: (Jon Stewart, Acting Chair)
*    Reviewed and commented on EWOS report on character set
     profiles and taxonomy (not approved, need vendor input)

*    CGM concerns over misalignment with FOD26 DAP, will send
     liaison to SGFS, EWOS-EG/CGM

*    Continued brainstorming on requirements for "model" content
     architecture, object typing, methods etc.

Next Meeting: 15-17 March 1994

Tutorial -- Tues, 15 March, 3pm: Intro to Multi/Hypermedia Standards

  •   Jim Wing (J W)