Re: [ogpx] VWRAP working group charter update

Random thoughts:

I would see one of the primary benefits of having a session in Hiroshima as
reaching out to Pacific Rim attendees who may not have participated in MMOX
or OGPX discussions but are interested in the problem space but were unable
to attend the Stockholm meeting. At this point we can pretty clearly
articulate the problem space including the expected components of the
protocol suite, so getting others on board should be more feasible.

A discussion that might benefit from F2F discussion would be "drive by"
attendance from IETF peeps who could advocate for non-HTTP protocol usage in
places within VWRAP where HTTP is not a shoe-in (i.e. object transport,
bidirectional messaging, session initiation, etc.). Even where not ideal,
tunneling everything over HTTP/port 80 has so many benefits for uptake, and
hearing from implementers of other protocols on how they overcame challenges
(or gave up and tunneled over HTTP!) would be extremely useful. That said,
it's hard to arrange for that sort of attendance.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Kari Lippert <kari.lippert@gmail.com>wrote:

> Sadly, you've stolen my reply!
>
> Kari
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ann Otoole <missannotoole@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Travel in real life vastly exceeds my current bare necessities budget.
> > You do see the sad irony of having to travel in real life to discuss the
> > standardization of virtual worlds so we don't have to travel right?
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com>
> > To: ogpx <ogpx@ietf.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:15:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ogpx] VWRAP working group charter update
> >
> > No replies....
> > I know I only posted this yesterday, but I thought there might be more
> > response.  Please, if you plan to participate in the working group, in
> > general, I'd like your comment on the wisdom/value of trying to meet
> > in Hiroshima, yes or no.  If you want to participate and aim to be at
> > IETF 77 in Anaheim (the week of 21 March, 2010), but won't attend if
> > we have a meeting at IETF 76 in Hiroshima, I'd like to know that as
> > well.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Barry Leiba
> > <barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I have an administrative update about the VWRAP charter:
> >> It's moving along apace, and will be discussed on this week's IESG
> >> telechat on Thursday.  That means that the working group may be
> >> chartered imminently, a good 2 to 4 weeks sooner than I'd anticipated.
> >>  Many thanks to Alexey Melnikov for moving it ahead quickly for us!
> >>
> >> Now, let's not count chicken avatars yet, because nothing is certain
> >> until it's done, and we're past the nominal deadline for session
> >> requests at IETF 76 anyway, but:
> >> - It's likely that we'll be chartered soon enough.
> >> - We can probably get a session scheduled if I ask Marcia nicely.
> >>
> >> So, just floating the question, for now: Do we want one?  If we have a
> >> VWRAP session at IETF 76 in Hiroshima (the week of 8 November), will
> >> people come?  Will we have work to do there?
> >>
> >> Barry (OGPX BOF chair)
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