Re: [ogpx] A Review of Multi-Domain Use Cases [Was: Re: OpenID and OGP : beginning the discussion ...]
Carlo Wood <carlo@alinoe.com> Mon, 29 June 2009 16:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ogpx] A Review of Multi-Domain Use Cases [Was: Re: OpenID
and OGP : beginning the discussion ...]
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 07:51:09AM -0700, Meadhbh Siobhan wrote: > the second one is left as an exercise to client application developers > and is analogous to the difficulty end users may have in > differentiating two entities with the same name but distinct email > addresses. Well, then I'm almost satisfied :). There is still one problem however. Before the application developers can do this, they need to receive some globally unique identifier that is always the same (ie, an email address, but again, I REALLY don't want to share my email address with people online). Example, a viewer is connected and the corresponding agent resides in a given region. There it meet another avatar. In order to display the tag above this new avatar the viewer needs to receive Firstname Lastname... but, as I've tried to argue so far, it ALSO needs to receive a globally unique identifier that uniquely identifies the person behind the avatar (or rather, his account) and please don't let it be an email address ;). The point being: the server-client *protocol* needs to be designed such that this globally unique ID is made available to all viewers. If this is the case, then I'm happy and there should be no problems in the future regarding this. If no separate ID is provided then several problems occur: * Impersonation (people deliberately using the same shape and skin etc) * IM's will be logged to the same file, because the viewer can't know who is who. Also, the ID has to be same every time - because the viewer will need to recognize that this John Smith is not AGAIN a new one, but the same, every time. -- Carlo Wood <carlo@alinoe.com>
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