Re: [ogpx] VWRAP Draft Charter - 2009 09 01

[Morgaine <[e-mail]>]

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Carlo Wood <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 10:52:18PM +0100, Morgaine wrote:
> > It's important to highlight (as you did) that issues such as age
> verification
> > have no place in a worldwide IETF protocol standard, so while you provide
> a
> > good example of policy variations among worlds, any such agreements are
> outside
> > of the context of our protocol.
>
> Not entirely... age verification is necessary in many countries with
> what's going on in an SL-like world.
>
> A RD cannot do the age-verification; that is a job for an AD.
>
> However, I think it's the RD that needs to make the decision whether
> or not a user is allowed in (based on its age), which in turn means
> that the AD has to tell the RD if it knows the age, and if so, what
> it is; hence, it should be part of the protocol.
>
>
It's no business of an IETF protocol to deal with the age of participants.
That's like SMTP rejecting connections or mail delivery based on the ages of
the MTA operator and owner of the mail client.  The whole idea is completely
ludicrous, not to mention unimplementable.

Please let's try not to engage in what Schneier calls "security theater", a
politically correct feelgood factor that actually achieves nothing while
adding layers of red tape and complexity.


Morgaine.






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On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Carlo Wood <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 10:52:18PM +0100, Morgaine wrote:
> > It's important to highlight (as you did) that issues such as age
> verification
> > have no place in a worldwide IETF protocol standard, so while you provide
> a
> > good example of policy variations among worlds, any such agreements are
> outside
> > of the context of our protocol.
>
> Not entirely... age verification is necessary in many countries with
> what's going on in an SL-like world.
>
> A RD cannot do the age-verification; that is a job for an AD.
>
> However, I think it's the RD that needs to make the decision whether
> or not a user is allowed in (based on its age), which in turn means
> that the AD has to tell the RD if it knows the age, and if so, what
> it is; hence, it should be part of the protocol.
>
> --
> Carlo Wood <[e-mail]>
>