Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisions
Carlo Wood <carlo@alinoe.com> Thu, 08 October 2009 23:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisions
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On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 03:30:26PM -0700, Meadhbh Hamrick wrote: > a service. but other than to acknowledge that it might happen, i don't > think it's in our best interest to define a protocol for transporting > policy descriptions between domains. what policies are possible will > differ between implementations, and the purpose of defining them as > part of the policy domain is to explicitly remove them from > negotiation during protocol exchanges. I do not agree with this... for some policies this is good, but for others it is not. Since we won't specify an exhausted list, but -hopefully- treat everything abstractly, there still is the need for some abstract list of policy negotiation in the protocol. Example. So far we concentrated on the decision "can this user teleport that region", so allow me to use that case again: * Problem: user can teleport from wherever to Region1 (R1) if both R1 and it's current Agent Service (A1) allow it. * The Agent Service will initiate this, if it (already) thinks it's ok for the user to go to R1 (or would never ask R1). So, A1 policies ARE removed from the protocol, as you said. * What remains are the policies of the region. If you eliminate those too from the protocol than the policy decision making becomes very unflexible. In effect, the right of the region to make also policy decisions would be at the mercy of the agent domain operators (ie, responsiveness) and very hard to change, certainly not frequently and not at all real-time. Surely some policies, like using md5 hashes for something, would be fine under such circumstances; but others, like FOR EXAMPLE (we don't KNOW what all else might pop up) banning certain users; or toggling 'region has mature content' (some region might have adult shows between 20:00 and 4:00, and PG-13 games between 12:00 and 17:00). -- Carlo Wood <carlo@alinoe.com>
- [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisions Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Siobhan
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Joshua Bell
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- [ogpx] VWRAP future (mostly out of protocol rambl… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Joshua Bell
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] VWRAP future (mostly out of protocol r… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca