Re: [ogpx] refined idea for documents..

Thanks for the pointers!*starts studying*

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Infinity Linden <infinity@lindenlab.com>wrote:

> ack. totally forgot. some of the refinements i was talking about
> above, made it into this draft:
>
>
> http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_5.html
>
> which also reminds me, i think the following page has references to
> the most up to date pre-IETF drafts:
>
> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Grid_Protocol
>
> and we have some diagrams on this page:
>
> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OGP_Explained
>
> not all of the diagrams are up to date (especially authentication,
> which has changed A LOT) but it should give you some ideas about the
> flows.
>
> -cheers
> -meadhbh / infinity
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Infinity Linden <infinity@lindenlab.com>
> wrote:
> > yup vaughn. that's the teleport draft we made after the 2008 interop
> > tests. if i remember correctly, we didn't modify the code on vaak to
> > follow this draft. and... we found a few things we wanted to change
> > from this draft over the last year.
> >
> > but i think that about 99% of what's in the text on the wiki is going
> > to show up in the teleport internet draft. stuff we've said we want to
> > add includes discussion on policy and where policy enforcement points
> > might be, as well as being slightly more clear where region caps for
> > teleport come from and the relationship between teleport caps (that
> > are given to agent domains the region trusts) and long lived
> > information URLs (that may or may not be capabilities) with public
> > information about the region.
> >
> > -cheers
> > -meadhbh
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Vaughn Deluca <vaughn.deluca@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> In an attempt to add more details in the deployment patterns I started
> to do
> >> some homework. I found this:
> >> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OGP_Teleport_Draft_3
> >> Is there a newer version of this document? Is it more or less safe to
> use
> >> this as an starting point of my thinking about OGP/VWRAP?
> >> -Vaughn
> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Meadhbh Siobhan <
> meadhbh.siobhan@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> okay. discuss away!
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Morgaine
> >>> <morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> > A good way of proceeding would be to discuss David's deployment
> patterns
> >>> > first, before cranking out a new intro document.  After all, there is
> a
> >>> > lot
> >>> > of good material there, hinting at many useful use cases.  Then any
> new
> >>> > document would have a chance of reflecting the viewpoints of the
> group
> >>> > so
> >>> > far, and building on the consensus.
> >>> >
> >>> > Ref:  http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-levine-ogp-layering-00
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Morgaine.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ======================================
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Infinity Linden
> >>> > <infinity@lindenlab.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> yup. we're actually in the process of adding the deployment pattern
> >>> >> stuff to the intro doc. great minds think alike!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Vaughn Deluca
> >>> >> <vaughn.deluca@gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Infinity
> >>> >> > Linden <infinity@lindenlab.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> hey peeps...
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> i was thinking about it, and came up with a slightly different
> list
> >>> >> >> of
> >>> >> >> documents:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> * intro and goals (used to be called intro and requirements)
> >>> >> >> * abstract type system (used to be called LLSD)
> >>> >> >> * foundations
> >>> >> >> * the VWRAP trust/security model
> >>> >> >> * virtual world description format
> >>> >> >> * client application launch message
> >>> >> >> * agent presence establishment
> >>> >> >> * avatar format
> >>> >> >> * asset format and access
> >>> >> >> * chat/voice establishment
> >>> >> >> * user profile access
> >>> >> >> * time sensitive messages
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> [snip]
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> * intro and goals ( based on
> >>> >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hamrick-ogp-intro-00 )
> >>> >> >>  * social context of virtual worlds - why they're interesting
> >>> >> >>  * very high level description of virtual world characteristics -
> >>> >> >> not
> >>> >> >> what a virtual world "is" as much as features of a virtual world
> you
> >>> >> >> may not have thought about.
> >>> >> >>  * how VWRAP virtual worlds differ from other virtual worlds -
> how
> >>> >> >> OpenSim and SecondLife differ on a technology level from WoW
> >>> >> >>  * protocol objectives and goals - specific features of the
> protocol
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>  * this doc is it's own document because we think there's a need
> for
> >>> >> >> a lot of background, and it's mostly non-technical.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > [snip ]
> >>> >> > I would suggest to add some stuff
> >>> >> > from http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-levine-ogp-layering
> >>> >> > The use cases given there would come a long way to clarify the
> >>> >> > current
> >>> >> > confusion over what we can call a virtual world and what the main
> >>> >> > seat
> >>> >> > of
> >>> >> > policy is in these cases.
> >>> >> > Vaughn
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