Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtual World vs Virtual Worlds

David W Levine <dwl@us.ibm.com> Sat, 25 July 2009 14:27 UTC

Return-Path: <dwl@us.ibm.com>
X-Original-To: ogpx@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ogpx@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC733A6967; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:27:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -5.093
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.093 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.905, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_75=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KYzgjhBy5fin; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:27:13 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from e3.ny.us.ibm.com (e3.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.143]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7713A69FE; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:27:13 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from d01relay03.pok.ibm.com (d01relay03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.235]) by e3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n6PE82QU032715; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:08:02 -0400
Received: from d01av05.pok.ibm.com (d01av05.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.195]) by d01relay03.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v9.2) with ESMTP id n6PEDurv164094; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:13:57 -0400
Received: from d01av05.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av05.pok.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id n6PEDu3v007375; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:13:56 -0400
Received: from d01ml605.pok.ibm.com (d01ml605.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.91]) by d01av05.pok.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id n6PEDuwf007372; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:13:56 -0400
In-Reply-To: <4A6AB9C0.6090109@dcrocker.net>
References: <e0b04bba0907210146o64697050s1f38ab4db838c85c@mail.gmail.com> <b8ef0a220907210834l2ce4da0cle430176f5d939be4@mail.gmail.com> <4A686B0C.9040802@dcrocker.net> <3a880e2c0907240659t57b8ba4ajd0b9078e2a3ee638@mail.gmail.com> <4A6AB9C0.6090109@dcrocker.net>
To: dcrocker@bbiw.net
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-KeepSent: A90FF98C:E6696759-852575FE:004D7662; type=4; name=$KeepSent
X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.2 HF623 January 16, 2009
Message-ID: <OFA90FF98C.E6696759-ON852575FE.004D7662-852575FE.004E2E30@us.ibm.com>
From: David W Levine <dwl@us.ibm.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:13:55 -0400
X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML605/01/M/IBM(Release 8.5|December 05, 2008) at 07/25/2009 10:13:55, Serialize complete at 07/25/2009 10:13:55
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004E2E2F852575FE_="
Cc: Infinity Linden <infinity@lindenlab.com>, Meadhbh Siobhan <meadhbh.siobhan@gmail.com>, ogpx@ietf.org, ogpx-bounces@ietf.org, dcrocker@bbiw.net
Subject: Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtual World vs Virtual Worlds
X-BeenThere: ogpx@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Virtual Worlds and the Open Grid Protocol <ogpx.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogpx>, <mailto:ogpx-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ogpx>
List-Post: <mailto:ogpx@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ogpx-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogpx>, <mailto:ogpx-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:27:14 -0000

> 
> > i think i can speak for John Hurliman and David Lavine when i say, "we
> > are all about incremental enhancement."
> 
> Did you start out being all about it, or did you come to it... 
incrementally?
> 
> 
> d/
> 
> -- 
> 
>    Dave Crocker
>    Brandenburg InternetWorking
>    bbiw.net
> 
> 
The epigenesis of the OGPX work was Linden Lab's desire to re-structure 
their internal architecture to allow a scalable architecture. They 
realized that what they were going to do would give them a chance to 
actually define the interoperability points at the same time. Since Linden 
runs a multi-thousand server deployment, one of the earliest design points 
was the ability to move stepwise from the current legacy model to the next 
generation architecture. OpenSim is structured as a base platform with a 
set of extensions, such that one can create multiple diverse systems from 
the core parts. Factored interfaces, extensability and incremental change 
is pretty deep in the DNA of the work. 

- David W. Levine
~ Zha Ewry (In Second Life)