Re: [ogpx] VWRAP working group charter update

[Barry Leiba <[e-mail]>]

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Carlo Wood <[e-mail]> wrote:
> But, apart from that I cannot afford to (and also not for other reasons)
> participate in real life meetings (outside my city and/or starting before
> 1 pm); I don't understand why this can't be done online... only knowledge
> and data needs to be exchanged. Why is a real life meeting necessary?

To be clear:
IETF process specifies that official work is done on the mailing list,
and so anything that's "decided" at a face-to-face meeting, on a
conference call, or over any other means (IM or VW, for example) must
be re-confirmed on the mailing list.

It is NOT necessary for anyone to travel to the meetings in order to
participate.

That said, the IETF holds three face-to-face meetings each year (and
some working groups hold interim working-group meetings; I doubt this
group will do that).  These meetings allow for a great deal of
high-bandwidth interaction and discussion, and usually enable us to
get a lot of work done that would be more difficult or more protracted
without the opportunity to get people into a room together.  We find
that people get a lot out of attending in person.

Assuming it's chartered, the VRAP working group WILL be meeting at the
face-to-face IETF meetings -- at least at most of them.  The question
is whether we should try to meet in Hiroshima, given how soon it is.
But I'll repeat: whether or not we meet in Hiroshima, and whether or
not you (meaning any participant) attend ANY of the face-to-face
meetings, have no effect on your participation in the working group.
You become a full participant merely by participating here, on the
mailing list.

Barry (long-time IETF participant, working-group chair, and former IAB member)