Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case
Vaughn Deluca <vaughn.deluca@gmail.com> Fri, 16 October 2009 13:35 UTC
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Well, for what its worth, i would :), *Raises hand* But I see this use case in the first place as a vehicle for our thinking, and a way to spot implict assumptions that would limit the general usability of VWRAP. I think that just based on good design principles a strong argument can be made for asset services that expose their interface, rather than keeping them internal to the agent domain. Especially since there is nothing to prevent a configuration that works exactly as the current SL use case. So nothing has to be sacrificed, yet a much richer set of deployment patterns becomes possible. -Vaughn On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick) < infinity@lindenlab.com> wrote: > also. just a show of hands. who's planning on implementing the tourist > model? > > -- > infinity linden (aka meadhbh hamrick) * it's pronounced "maeve" > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Infinity_Linden > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 00:34, Vaughn Deluca <vaughn.deluca@gmail.com> > wrote: > > The "tourist use case" has been brought up several times, but the concept > is > > not always used in the same way, and needs to be more precisely defined. > > Morgaines original definition of the "Free Worlds Tourist use case" in > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmox/current/msg01392.html > > mentions two characteristics: > > 1. Travel requires no prior arrangement. > > 2. Your avatar is defined by you, not by the target worlds, and it > appears > > in those worlds with no prior arrangement. > > Point 1 is only dependent the policies of the users AD as well as that of > > the destination region. It is not dependent on the protocol, so in > principle > > solved. > > The second point is actually extending the SL use case beyond what is in > my > > view needed for a basic tourist model (and that is why the post was in > the > > mmox list). In my view a basic tourist use case has two main > > characteristics: > > 1. Travel requires no prior arrangement. > > 2. Agent domains can use external asset services > > Point 2 requires that assets services expose an interface (in the current > > ogp description of the AD that is not the case). > > Note that this models does *not* assumes that all assets in a services > > should be useable by the agent in all domains, but only that an interface > is > > available so an asset service in one domain can be contacted by another > AD. > > I think exposing the asset service interface directly is essential for > > meaningful interop. I think it would benefit the discussion if some > > diagrams were added to http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Structural_Design > > and/or to the VWRAP wiki to document this possibility. > > -Vaughn > > _______________________________________________ > > ogpx mailing list > > ogpx@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogpx > > > > >
- [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Sean Hennessee
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Joshua Bell
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Charles Krinke
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Charles Krinke
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Lawson English
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Lawson English
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Lawson English
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Joshua Bell
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case dyerbrookme@juno.com
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Han Sontse
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Han Sontse
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case Morgaine