Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working group
Meadhbh Siobhan <meadhbh.siobhan@gmail.com> Sat, 18 July 2009 17:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working group
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@dave crocker . mmm... good feedback, but i think a number of us thought this was such a large design space that it was appropriate to move some details out of the charter and into the "intro and requirements" doc. @kajikawa . right, the role of the agent domain and the region domain are crucial to the protocol. and the LLIDL resource descriptions + documentation of their semantics are supposed to define service interfaces. strictly speaking, we're not developing a software architecture here, but processing expectations _are_ in scope, so understanding what the software looks like would be a "good idea" (tm). @david . right . it CRITICAL that we not create a deployment design space that is so large that we find ourselves working through use cases 10 years from now. the linden deployment pattern is well documented. OpenSIm has a couple deployment patterns: standalone, grid, and probably both with 3rd party cable beach service. we should probably also chat with ryan @ realXtend to see if realXtend and 3di deployment patterns are different from OpenSim. -cheers On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, David W Levine<dwl@us.ibm.com> wrote: > > If you look at: > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-levine-ogp-layering-00.txt > > It begins to address this at the requirements and design pattern level. I'd > strongly argue, that if its not clear that we want to permit the protocols > to work properly in *all* of those deployments patterns, we need to update > the charter to make that clear. > > My personal perspective is that the OGPX specifications are going to end up > defining several hundred "REST" and "RESTish" resources/services, and that > grouping and we need to describe how to group and deploy them as deployers > see fit. There re some natural clusterings which will be very hard to > decouple, but, beyond those, the specifications should strive to give > deployers and implementers as much flexibility as possible. > > - David W. Levine > ~ Zha Ewry, In Second Life > > > > > Kajikawa Jeremy <belxjander@gmail.com> > Sent by: ogpx-bounces@ietf.org > > 07/18/2009 05:22 AM > > To > ogpx@ietf.org > cc > Subject > Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working group > > > > > Well a sketch I recently worked up has > AgentDomain and RegionDomain > > these can be instanced... > > but both need "SI" or Service Interfaces > basically abstracting U G A I M into classes for re-use > and standardizing the protocol chatter > > On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 11:57 +0100, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> Dave CROCKER wrote: >> >> > Also: A topic that's been discussed frequently is the difference >> > between having a client able to access multiple servers, versus having >> > independent servers directly interact. From the draft charter, I >> > cannot tell which of these will be covered or how. >> >> I think this is an important question. There are 3 groups of entities >> involved in OGP and the charter doesn't make this clear. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ogpx mailing list >> ogpx@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogpx > > _______________________________________________ > ogpx mailing list > ogpx@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogpx > > > _______________________________________________ > ogpx mailing list > ogpx@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogpx > >
- [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working gro… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Meadhbh Siobhan
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Meadhbh Siobhan
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Barry Leiba
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Meadhbh Siobhan
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Meadhbh Siobhan
- Re: [ogpx] revised draft charter for OGPX working… Alexey Melnikov