Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtual World vs Virtual Worlds
Dave CROCKER <dhc2@dcrocker.net> Sat, 25 July 2009 07:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtual World vs Virtual
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David W Levine wrote: > The number > of actual RESTish web service deployments over XMPP, RTP, or other > plausible messaging oriented protocols is pretty small. David, My impression is that while REST was first defined as a generic computer science construct, it's reality applies only to the Web. Your own language, above, encourage this impression. While I can imagine have "web service deployments over XMPP" I am quite sure it's not going to happen. So say "web service deployment" is to invoke a very elaborate set of services. As soon as we talk about operating over xmpp, RTP or some other transport, we are no longer talking about the web. If OGP is a web service, then it is tied to the web and the web uses HTTP for transfer. If OGP is not tied to the web, then any reference to transfer needs to be independent of web terminology and mechanisms. If indeed transport independence is a goal -- and FWIW it's a goal I'm in favor of -- then anything having to do with the web needs to be carefully partitioned, with literally no direct OGP reference to it. The partitioning would provide a distinct OGP-over-the-web encapsulation specification. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
- [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtual Wo… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Meadhbh Siobhan
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Charles Krinke
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Charles Krinke
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] OGPX Charter+Intro ambiguity in Virtua… Morgaine