[ogpx] Global Agent Domain Registry [Was: Re: OpenID and OGP : beginning the discussion ...]

[Infinity Linden <[e-mail]>]

okay... so it seems like you're actually asking... "how do we maintain
global avatar name uniqueness if avatar first and last name are used
as primary keys for logging in?"

there was some discussion about a global avatar name registry last
year in the SL Architecture Working Group, though i don't think there
were any definitive results.

i think we're punting on the problem with respect to protocol
development. that is, i don't think the protocol specifications will
say anything about the expectation that an agent name be globally
unique across grids.

deploying such a service would be quite an effort in terms of community buy-in.

that being said, there's no reason it can't be done in the future or
as a project of a non-IETF group.

for the time being, we can use account identifiers to guarantee
uniqueness; or at least that's my sense given the lack of radical
agreement in the topic.

in other words, i think it's a topic that will lead to wailing and
gnashing of teeth and would only serve to delay production of
standards that people _do_ agree on.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Carlo Wood<[e-mail]> wrote:
> I'm glad it doesn't imply that then :p
>
> Nevertheless, it worries me a bit. At some point we want to be able to
> teleport between grids right? Surely the people will want to have the
> same name (and shape) after they teleported in most cases.
>
> If the same first_name+last_name is only unique per grid, then
> people will (have to) start fights about names: one has to register
> the same first_name+last_name on every grid you want to use.
>
> The make a long story short: they same wars and trouble will immerse
> as are happening on IRC now: too many people in a too small namespace.
>
> At some point there will come the strong demand for a "nick serv",
> some central point where people can reserve their name for every
> large grid on the planet and claim for themselves (for example, to
> stop forms of impersonations). That would be 'hack'.
>
> I think we have to seriously think about this. Perhaps there is a
> better solution than 'first name / last name' to login ;).
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 03:54:08PM -0700, Infinity Linden wrote:
>> why would this imply global uniqueness? it describes a message sent
>> from a client to a particular protocol endpoint.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Carlo Wood<[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >>    & identifier = {
>> >>      type: 'account',
>> >>      account_name: string,
>> >>      first_name: string,
>> >>      last_name: string,
>> >>    }
>> >>
>> >>    & identifier = {
>> >>        type: 'agent',
>> >>        first_name: string,
>> >>        last_name: string,
>> >>    }
>> >
>> > This seems to implicate that first_name + last_name
>> > have to be unique not only per grid, but globally
>> > for every virtual world.
>> >
>> > Is that true? Or would it be possible to use a different
>> > name on different grids? Would it be possible that different
>> > unrelated people use the same name on different grids?
>
> --
> Carlo Wood <[e-mail]>
>