Re: [ogpx] VWRAP Draft Charter - 2009 09 01

"Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)" <mike.dickson@hp.com> Sun, 04 October 2009 00:37 UTC

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From: "Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)" <mike.dickson@hp.com>
To: Morgaine <morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com>, Carlo Wood <carlo@alinoe.com>
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The algorithm or mechanism to enforce an age related connection policy is outside the scope of the protocol, yes.  But its not at all  inconceivable that the protocol could carry age information as an attribute that an AD/RD pair could use to make a decision as to whether a connection is to be allowed.

Mike

From: ogpx-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ogpx-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Morgaine
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Subject: Re: [ogpx] VWRAP Draft Charter - 2009 09 01

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Carlo Wood <carlo@alinoe.com<mailto:carlo@alinoe.com>> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 10:52:18PM +0100, Morgaine wrote:
> It's important to highlight (as you did) that issues such as age verification
> have no place in a worldwide IETF protocol standard, so while you provide a
> good example of policy variations among worlds, any such agreements are outside
> of the context of our protocol.
Not entirely... age verification is necessary in many countries with
what's going on in an SL-like world.

A RD cannot do the age-verification; that is a job for an AD.

However, I think it's the RD that needs to make the decision whether
or not a user is allowed in (based on its age), which in turn means
that the AD has to tell the RD if it knows the age, and if so, what
it is; hence, it should be part of the protocol.

It's no business of an IETF protocol to deal with the age of participants.  That's like SMTP rejecting connections or mail delivery based on the ages of the MTA operator and owner of the mail client.  The whole idea is completely ludicrous, not to mention unimplementable.

Please let's try not to engage in what Schneier calls "security theater", a politically correct feelgood factor that actually achieves nothing while adding layers of red tape and complexity.

Morgaine.