Re: [ogpx] VWRAP Draft Charter

isn't an OpenSim region running in standalone mode like having all the
services locally. i mean... it's beginning to sound like a petty
distinction, but in order to serve up information about the user or
the region or assets in the region, you have to have SOMETHING that
behaves like a user server or asset server. i always looked at it as
being that all these "services" were local to the machine, not that
they didn't really exist.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Charles Krinke <cfk@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Well, no, thats not quite how OpenSim works.
>
> A standalone OpenSim region with no grid services is probably loosely
> equivalent to no AD and I think that was the mode in which the tests were
> performed with the IBM OpenSim region and OGP a year or so ago.
>
> An OpenSim region running in grid mode is connected to a number of servers
> that connect the grid together. These are a UserServer, GridServer,
> Asset/InventoryServer and MessagingServer. So these are *more or less*
> equivalent to AD notions.
>
> Charles
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joshua Bell <josh@lindenlab.com>
> To: ogpx@ietf.org
> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 2:57:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [ogpx] VWRAP Draft Charter - 2009 09 01
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>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Morgaine <morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Your next step is to realize that, for two structurally identical worlds,
>> if the seat of policy of one lies in its AD, then the seat of policy of the
>> other also lies in its AD.  Therefore your statement needs to be modified to
>> the following:
>>
>> IMHO, it should be apparent that both the AD of the source world and the
>> RD and AD of the destination world all need to make policy decisions.
>>
>
> I don't agree with this at all.
>
> A VW service provider could operate a region domain with no agent domain. I
> believe this is VERY LOOSELY equivalent to running an OpenSim instance in
> Grid mode today (but I can't state that definitively) the person running the
> sim is basically running just the region, and relying on someone else's
> agent domain (agent-centric services).
>
> Similarly, BigGiantCo could operate an agent domain for their employs (as a
> bolt-on to their enterprise LDAP server, say) with no region domain.
>
> A BigGiantCo employee can visit the RD-only VW - the AD talks to the RD to
> place the agent in a region. There aren't necessarily any other RDs or ADs
> involved at all. This is where protocol and policy come into play - the AD
> needs to communicate with and trust the RD and vice versa (even if that's
> nil-trust).
>
>
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