Re: [ogpx] Definitions of terms to be used in my (our?) communication

[Meadhbh Siobhan <[e-mail]>]

hey carlo,

just as a fyi, we have some _slightly_ different terms/definitions in
OGP/VWRAP than in SL. just a reminder, OGP/VWRAP is decidedly not
legacy SL protocol. (sorry if i sound like a broken record about that)

but before i comment on these terms, let me point out that while this
discussion is interesting and germane to the subject of virtual
worlds, it is a bit out of scope for a discussion about the charter.
so, can we just for right now, just use the terms that have been
defined in the way that they're defined and get through the charter
bashing?

i PROMISE you, that we'll get back to terms in more detail, and
honestly, i like your use of the term "universe."



in the current OGP/VWRAP documents, the term "island" and "galaxy" aren't used.

your use of the term "region" is different than the way it's described
in the intro doc. what you call a "region" below, we would call a
"region domain." what we call a "region" is the set of data used to
represent a collection of adjacent points in the virtual world. i'm
hoping that the verbiage in the draft charter makes it clear that
services that export information about the region or provide an
interface to modify the region's state go through a single region
specific URI. the "simulator" is the server process that maintains the
region's state and processes service requests. the "simulator host" or
"region host" is the machine itself that the simulator process runs
on.

further, a "domain" is a collection of resources administered by a
single entity. thus a "region domain" is a collection of regions that
are run by the same entity, and presumably _could_ be governed by the
same terms of service, or more importantly to us, could potentially be
considered a single end entity in the trust model.

we haven't put the term "adjacent region" into the doc, and now that i
see you talking about it, i think it was an oversight not to. or
rather, maybe just to talk about "adjacency" in general. for people
who are unfamiliar with SL, adjacent regions are simply regions that
are next to each other in the geometry of the virtual world. in second
life, a region communicates with adjacent regions so the original
region can tell the client the state of assets it's managing, if the
client needs to know about it and policy says the client can access
that information. *whew* in SL, the term "island" sometimes means
regions that have no adjacent regions (i.e. - they're out in the
virtual ocean, all by themselves) or about a virtual landscape that
looks like an island. (obviously, the former is more interesting to
this group than the latter at this moment.)

the terms "land" and "continent" are not defined in the spec. SL uses
"continents" for administrative and (some) billing purposes. we are
not trying to foist this aspect of SL off on the unsuspecting public.
that is, it works well for us to divide things into continents, and if
someone other than Linden wants to do this, good on ya. but, requiring
that this be a part of the specification is not harmonious with our
objective of not having people say bad things about us.

"galaxy" is also not defined in the spec, or by any of implementors
who worked on OGP over the last 2 years.

"virtual world" is defined informally as discussed earlier on this
list. i know morgaine frequently uses the term "region domain" to
describe what we would call a "virtual world."

"VWRAP Universe" is not defined now, and i'm generally loathe to
introduce new terms, but i have to admit, i kinda like this one. but
let's talk about it more later.

about "MMOX Universe.." as far as i can tell, no one is working on
MMOX currently, so we might want to say "non-VWRAP universe" to
describe universes that are not VWRAPish.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Carlo Wood<[e-mail]> wrote:
> A) A smallest partition
>
>  REGION
>
> B) A collection of adjacent regions run by a single administration
>
>  ISLAND or ADJACENT REGIONS
>
> C) A collection of adjacent regions's run by different administrations
>   (which very likely use the same TOS etc)
>
>  LAND, or CONTINENT when larger.
>
> D) A collection of continent's that are not adjacent but still fall
>   under the same TOS, likely use the same inter-world protocols
>   and organisation-specific extensions etc (likely, they will
>   have their own website and their own Abuse Report team etc).
>
>  VIRTUAL WORLD
>
> E) A collection of Virtual World's that have totally different
>   administrations and possibly different TOS etc, but which
>   interoperate (ie, you can pass on a Landmark of one VW to
>   a person you meet in another VW).
>
>  GALAXY
>
> F) The whole of all Galaxies that do not interoperate, but still use VWRAP.
>
>  VWRAP UNIVERSE
>
> G) The rest that use the term "virtual world", but do not use VWRAP.
>
>  MMOX UNIVERSE
>
>
> Please state if
> * you have problem with me going to use these terms consistently in my posts
> * you will use these terms with the same meaning
> * you wish to give these terms a different meaning
>
> I understand there is also something called "REGION DOMAIN", but
> I have no idea which of the above that would be as it's not my
> term and it was never discussed.
>
> --
> Carlo Wood <[e-mail]>
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