Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisions
Carlo Wood <carlo@alinoe.com> Wed, 07 October 2009 09:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisions
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It still matters whether or not it's possible to query the AD about things the RD might want to deny someone access over or not (IP, email address, age). If that is not possible, than in PRACTISE I forsee that there will be much less cooperation, and thus interop, between AD's and RD's of different administrations. For example, in order to be able to ban people by email address, each RD might choose to run their own AD and not accept third party AD's. Sending an email, requesting a ban by email address, won't work, of cours :/ Too slow, no response... certainly not if the RD is small and considered insignificant and the AD has a monopoly and serves large grids. Therefore I think the protocol must support real-time a few important datas about users, so that the RD can make a decision, quickly and without human intervention from the AD. On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 10:05:44PM +0200, Vaughn Deluca wrote: > Maybe this will help also: Anything we have said so far on policy in this > discussion relates to protocol *options* someone *might* use. None of this > will be REQUIRED. The protocol will function without using any of it. So > really, as far as i can see we *can* move on. > > --Vaughn > -- Carlo Wood <carlo@alinoe.com>
- [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisions Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Siobhan
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Joshua Bell
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Meadhbh Hamrick
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- [ogpx] VWRAP future (mostly out of protocol rambl… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Joshua Bell
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Magnus Zeisig
- Re: [ogpx] VWRAP future (mostly out of protocol r… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Carlo Wood
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… David W Levine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Morgaine
- Re: [ogpx] Protocol for permitting policy decisio… Vaughn Deluca