Re: [ogpx] Tourist use case

Meadhbh Hamrick <meadhbh.siobhan@gmail.com> Fri, 16 October 2009 13:39 UTC

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On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Morgaine
<morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
> <infinity@lindenlab.com> wrote:
>
>> also. just a show of hands. who's planning on implementing the tourist
>> model?
>
> Almost everybody who will operate virtual worlds, I assume --- that could be
> hundreds of thousands of world operators, if not millions, mostly small.  We
> certainly can't foretell!  And we can't get them to raise a show of hands
> either. :-)

you mean you think they're all going to be implementing their own
software? i think that's unrealistic. even with the http servers,
which i think we could agree is slightly less complicated than any
virtual world protocol would be, web site operators use one of a
handful of implementations: (Apache, IIS, WebSTAR?, ...)

> I doubt that it will be common to operate walled gardens once everyone else
> is allowing their users to travel freely among the huge diversity of the
> metaverse.  It certainly seems like a recipe for failure to deny tourism to
> one's residents as a matter of policy, given that tourism is so popular in
> the physical world today.

well. the examples of large virtual worlds that exist today are, as
you call them, walled gardens.

> However, this is a policy issue of course, and therefore not something that
> VWRAP will dictate.  We merely provide the mechanisms to allow tourism when
> desired, not mandate or deny it to any given world operator.

i think it _is_ definitely important. we've set dates for the
publication of standard documentations, and i think it's unrealistic
to say that we are going to develop a standard that is infinitely
flexible. we will need to focus on a small collection of deployment
models. again, i have no problem including models that _will_ actually
be used. i'm just not sure it behooves us to spend a fair amount of
time ensuring our protocol flows work in deployment models that no one
is currently planning on deploying.

there's very clearly interest from linden for the "second life" [1]
deployment model; intel has show a clear interest in the "cable beach"
deployment model; OpenSim's UGAIM/Grid Mode and standalone deployment
models. i'm just curious who is going to be coding software for the
"tourist model."

-cheers.
-meadhbh/infinity