[Ohttp] John Scudder's Block on charter-ietf-ohttp-00-00: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
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Subject: [Ohttp] John Scudder's Block on charter-ietf-ohttp-00-00: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
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John Scudder has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-ohttp-00-00: Block When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-ohttp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BLOCK: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Éric, for some thought-provoking discussion points. My own reaction is that although they are interesting points, I don’t think business models have been seen as within the IETF’s sphere of competence (points 1 and especially 2), nor are politics (points 3 and especially 4). One can of course argue that no technology exists in a vacuum, and that all technologies have business and political ramifications, nonetheless I don’t see these as being reasonable bases for blocking progress on this proposal. Nonetheless, I do agree that these points, even though wrong ;-) may well be shared by other members of the community and that as a consequence, it’s reasonable to hold a BOF. All that said, I'm personally in favor of the work being progressed, I just think it's reasonable to make sure community input has been duly considered. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding Robert’s points, I had naïvely read the charter as being clearly for "generic oblivious HTTP mechanism to hide clients from servers”, but after looking at §3.1 (“applicability”) of draft-thomson-http-oblivious-01, I see his point: it does seem as though the author views OHTTP as being a niche, not a general, solution. The intended applicability of the work seems worth, at minimum, making more explicit in the charter, and again seems like it supports the idea of having a BOF where it can be discussed. Also, I do think it seems worth considering whether a discovery mechanism should be in-scope. On the face of it, it seems like a good idea, but maybe there's some specific reason the proponents have ruled it out.
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